Solid mount suspension

[Nobimmer 694]

This is NOT for the bimmer.

I am looking at buying a *certain old car* keeping it quiet for now as it's a steal from an old lady that comes into my work (only hint is that its pre 1970s) in fairly decent knick.

I was going to try something different and jack the car up a whole lot and put 13 inch 150 spokes on it.Like them Mobb deep cars.

Only thing I wanna do is solid mount the suspension in the raised position,I've done a little research but cant really figure out what is going to be involved in doing this.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Ohh note also it will have to be road legal,so if not possible then can this idea.

Edited January 31, 2008 by DimeBag

[CamB 48]

Longer springs and shocks, with very stiff springs might accomplish what you want. You need working springs and shocks for a WOF. You should also be careful about axle and steering joint angles, and not completely cocking the geometry. Plus, anything you do would have to be bolt on, since generally any mods to the chassis are theoretically non-WOFable.

On a car that old, it might not have springs (potentially at either end) - it's not inconceivable for it to have torsion bars, leaf springs, etc. Why not just say what it is, then you might actually get some decent help.

[Nobimmer 694]

The car is a 1970 Leyland P76 4.4l V8.

I had a quick look and it seems to have leafs at the back and torsion bars at the front.

Would it not be possible to remove all the springs/shocks and then weld solid steel arms in there?

[antony 0]

How high do you want it.

I can think of a few home style ideas, that may or may not work.

Maybe your best to talk to a few of the 4WD boys.

[isnowi 0]

If its a seperate body/chassis you might be able to give it a body lift, would leave all your suspension in its original configuration, only things that would need attention would be steering linkage (i presume it is a steering box on this, in which case it'd be pretty simple to move the entire box, although that would alter the angles of the tie rods. The other hassle would be wiring.

Cheers, Dan

[Mike 1]

you should be able to wind up the torsion bars and get some extra leafs put into the rear springs.

[Nobimmer 694]

what I want is like the Mobb Deep cars. That are completly solid and dont move. Kinda like a slab but a SHAB. I want to raise it atlest 5 inches and the key is to have it completly solid. Was thinking about the adding leaved etc but that would still have movement in the suspension.

What about massive bumpstops? Would keep it semi legal to for wofs etc?

[westy 614]

You're absolutly mad.

[will 169]

You're absolutly mad.

+1..

Hey Tony, we should take out a LARGE life insurance policy on Askan, if he does this and tries to drive it, we will get rich VERY quickly !!

[bravo 35]

Raised suspension

You may have noticed a growing trend to raise vehicles. This is sometimes done by fitting a suspension or body lift kit.

These types of modifications must be LVV certified.

These modifications may affect the stability of a vehicle by changing the centre of gravity, or they may impact on the steering system. Steering and suspension geometry can also be adversely affected if a vehicle is raised significantly.

Increased tyre size can also raise a vehicle. If the tyres are outside the limits specified in the VIRM, they must be LVV certified.

Edited February 3, 2008 by bravo

[*Glenn* 854]

You're absolutly mad.

+1

What the hell are these guys on ??

Solid suspension will not get a WOF let alone a Cert

BTW..there is no such thing as solid suspension... if its solid you dont have it..

Edited February 3, 2008 by botanymotorworx

[Greg111 13]

Why the hell don't you want any movement in the suspension??? Go round a corner and off the road you go! And yeah no w.o.f for you either.

[Nobimmer 694]

Ahh I think people have misunderstood me.

I have to get a picture to show you what I mean. Just to be different, I've seen it only once on a NZ car which was on a Rebel I think. I liked it and want to do something similar.

[international 0]

Any possible chance of contacting anyone whos actually done similar jobs at all? Through clubs that cater for those kind of cars?

[CamB 48]

So you wanna do this?

http://www.maxpower.co.uk/article.asp?asset=2356

???

There's a whole magazine devoted to it at Magazzino.

No friggin chance of getting a legit WOF without a cert.

LOL, a bit more google and:

http://universalcarlifts.com/

[hybrid 1043]

I use to have one of these too ...

and

[Nobimmer 694]

HELL NO!

not mimp my ride shiz.

Ok, anyone played GTA...sorry just cant think of any other way of explaining and my computer doesnt allow me to use google images for some reason.

When you get an old school low rider car and put it on hydraulics and raise them up as high as it goes.

Thats how high I want them,and I already have some 13" 150 spokes at home

[Greg111 13]

HELL NO!

not mimp my ride shiz.

Ok, anyone played GTA...sorry just cant think of any other way of explaining and my computer doesnt allow me to use google images for some reason.

When you get an old school low rider car and put it on hydraulics and raise them up as high as it goes.

Thats how high I want them,and I already have some 13" 150 spokes at home

Get some hydrolics then haha, i wouldn't think there was any chance of doing that sort of thing on the cheap?

[greenday-rulz21 6]

I wouldn't think there was any chance of doing that sort of thing on the cheap?

+1, you want something like that, you have to do it properly. For safety reasons also.

[ED1RTY 2]

hahahaha wtf ashkan

you must be HIGH on something

[Greg111 13]

hahahaha wtf ashkan

you must be HIGH on something

Pun?

[antony 0]

Talk to some 4wd guys, I'm sure they have a few tricks up there sleeves. And must have a NZ forum.

[hybrid 1043]

haha would you believe I use to be one of 'those' 4x4 guys

For leaf spring, you have to go to snell's springs and have the leaf's re-shaped and a new slate inserted. you will probably need blocks and longer leaf shackles too. you need 4x4 style shocks that will fit ... probably custom jobs made up

for the front, longer springs and shocks. all this is gonna screw the geometery but yeah .. you already know that. and hey its a yank tank with none to begin with

I would go see some specialist for this to get the shackles the right length... you will need a cert also.

[Nobimmer 694]

^^exactly what I was after,thanks Josh.

Will go talk to NS 4wd today and see what they say. Cost of suspension > cost of car

[CamB 48]

It's the same theory as those high-risers, just use small wheels. Fixing the geometry will be the hard bit.