BM WORLD 1283 Report post Posted August 31, 2008 i have a stuffed M52B28TU engine( from a e39 96 528i) , was thinking about fitting the crank and rods etc into a e30 M325i M20 engine. does any one have any info on whats envolved , i read a artical in total bmw etc about what to do , but cant find it now . cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeddy 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2008 I don't think the TU crank is the right one for the 2.8, cant remember why but have read it somewhere. Try e30zone these heaps of these on there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antony 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2008 I've got that article, but it's down in Dunedin (i think), I go back tomorrow, can scan it if you want. e30zone.net has heaps of info, they seem to think it's the bee's knee's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palazzo 477 Report post Posted August 31, 2008 Brent, I have the article at home, from memory it suggested it was dead easy. I'll try and find it tonight if nobody beats me to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr E34 11 Report post Posted September 1, 2008 This may help. http://www.msportster.co.uk/faq.asp?FAQ=25 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bravo 35 Report post Posted September 1, 2008 That's a sweet rebuild. What sort of numbers would you expect from the rebuilt motor. I've been humping along with plans for some low supercharged boost, but this looks like more fun, and I have a feeling it will go a fair bit harder than a 2.7 and can always boost it later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30-323ti 66 Report post Posted September 1, 2008 That's a sweet rebuild. What sort of numbers would you expect from the rebuilt motor. I've been humping along with plans for some low supercharged boost, but this looks like more fun, and I have a feeling it will go a fair bit harder than a 2.7 and can always boost it later. Looks more hassle than it's worth, unless you have the parts lying around like Brent. Just find a whole M52B28 and plonk that in. Are you thinking of building a motor for someone Brent? You could stroke your E36 DD, but I guess 'if it ain't broke....' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr E34 11 Report post Posted September 1, 2008 That's a sweet rebuild. What sort of numbers would you expect from the rebuilt motor. I've been humping along with plans for some low supercharged boost, but this looks like more fun, and I have a feeling it will go a fair bit harder than a 2.7 and can always boost it later. I agree, looks alot better than a 2.7. I would say with full mapping you should be around 220-225 hp @ flywheel?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM WORLD 1283 Report post Posted September 1, 2008 Looks more hassle than it's worth, unless you have the parts lying around like Brent. Just find a whole M52B28 and plonk that in. yes but that brings on whole lotta problems as well. Are you thinking of building a motor for someone Brent? yes it s for a freind in the race series , but i think he will do it . You could stroke your E36 DD, but I guess 'if it ain't broke....' yea my thougts . if it went wets then i might consider it I agree, looks alot better than a 2.7. I would say with full mapping you should be around 220-225 hp @ flywheel?? yes i think so to . and they are enought stuffed 2.8 m50 engine around to use to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmccormack 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2008 I think you use the m20b25 block, head and pistons but use E30 320/323 conrods (130mm) with the m52b28 crank. A spacer needs to be made for the front of the crank to build it up to the same size as the larger E30 front seal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeddy 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2008 I think you use the m20b25 block, head and pistons but use E30 320/323 conrods (130mm) with the m52b28 crank. A spacer needs to be made for the front of the crank to build it up to the same size as the larger E30 front seal. Yep or 320i conrods. IE and MM make spacers. IE one is $50US, MM one $200US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
williams 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2008 add m40 pistons and ur compression ratio shoud be about 8.5-purrrrfect for turbo=it works well!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr E34 11 Report post Posted September 3, 2008 Has anyone on Bimmersport built a M20 2.8ltr? I have a friend who wants to build one, any feedback please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeddy 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2008 Has anyone on Bimmersport built a M20 2.8ltr? I have a friend who wants to build one, any feedback please.i think 'muzza' is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antony 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2008 Here's a drawing of the crank seal required for the m20b28. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silly 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2008 Here's a drawing of the crank seal required for the m20b28. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murrayc 1 Report post Posted September 29, 2008 Try this link. http://www.msportster.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 30 Report post Posted September 29, 2008 Has anyone on Bimmersport built a M20 2.8ltr? I have a friend who wants to build one, any feedback please. Unless it's 11:1 compression don't bother (basically). They need a lot of head work to run right also. I'm talking from a 3.2 ltr view though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mops 4 Report post Posted October 3, 2008 i have a stuffed M52B28TU engine( from a e39 96 528i) , was thinking about fitting the crank and rods etc into a e30 M325i M20 engine. does any one have any info on whats envolved , i read a artical in total bmw etc about what to do , but cant find it now . cheers hm.... what's stuffed in the m52b28tu engine ? as for m5x crank into m20, besides oil seal i hear b28 might have clearance issues in the block and might need some grinding ? as for rods and pistons there are some options there... stock m20b25 pistons with eta 130mm rods will end up the same deck height... with more swept volume=higher compression.... well depends really... you would have to quantify your goals and budget... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boost Junky 1 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 As mops said whats gone in the m52b28tu? I see you mentioned there are plenty of stuffed m50b28 motors around? Apparantly the m52 are good for parts to stroke out the m50b25 motors to something along the lines of 2.8L - 3.0L? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM WORLD 1283 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 hm.... what's stuffed in the m52b28tu engine ? as for m5x crank into m20, besides oil seal i hear b28 might have clearance issues in the block and might need some grinding ? as for rods and pistons there are some options there... stock m20b25 pistons with eta 130mm rods will end up the same deck height... with more swept volume=higher compression.... well depends really... you would have to quantify your goals and budget... As mops said whats gone in the m52b28tu? I see you mentioned there are plenty of stuffed m50b28 motors around? Apparantly the m52 are good for parts to stroke out the m50b25 motors to something along the lines of 2.8L - 3.0L? the engine got over heated due to failed water pump/radiator etc. the previous owner fixed it up , has to put some helicoils into the block for the head bolts to hold got it up and going the then some of the other bolts would'nt hold tried some selves then gave up beacuse they would'nt hold . so basically the ali block is stuffed but the head and other parts are ok. these ali blocks dont like getting hot at all . where as the older cast iron blocks like in the m30 ,m20 ,m50 can handle a certain amount of heat before big problems occur . i once drove a old wrecked car (E28 86 525i M30) home from otahuhu back to papakura with the needle in the red . stripped the engine down and it was still ok inside Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boost Junky 1 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 Ah I see, I always wondered with the alloy blocks. If you don't end up using them and want to sell the bottom end components i may be interested in a dew months Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM WORLD 1283 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 Ah I see, I always wondered with the alloy blocks. If you don't end up using them and want to sell the bottom end components i may be interested in a dew months i have another crank availible if needed.just call me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boost Junky 1 Report post Posted October 15, 2008 Sweet thanks Brent, let ya know closer to the time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skidz 197 Report post Posted October 16, 2008 i think 'muzza' is Yeah, but he is not telling anyone about it, supposed to be a secret... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites