bimmer boy 21 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 So I was talking to my father the other day and he was telling me about a lady he know who has a 1983 Porsche 911 SC she has had in storage for the last 10 years, its on 80,000kms. She is willing to sell it for below market value,I wont say how much but its a good deal. shes clearly nuts. But yeah Dad has been wanting to get the Porsche for me insted of the E36. It has been looked over a few times by a few specialists and it is pretty much faultless. Im not sure if I want to be responsible for the maintenece on such a car or if I want to roll up at uni in it.. What I am wanting to know is what experience have people had with these cars? common fault or something. Cheers fellas Its exactly like this one here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forrest 35 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Just do it Ryan, you can realise your dream of being a 80's porn star Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjay 8 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 If you don't want to buy and keep, buy and resell. Look at these for inspiration: http://www.trademe.co.nz/browse/searchresu...rder=price_desc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nath 134 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Pfffft wouldnt your entire idea be to rock up to uni in it?! 930's are meant to be reliable as anything, i think the biggest issue is common oil leaks? Contact a/ the club, and the common Porsche garages- its gonna a heck of a lot better to get the info there than on an amateur bmw site. I ADORE 930's espesh in metallic brown on BBS rims, but stuff driving an old porsche around a city every day, i find my sisters MX5 hard enough work as an A-B car! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drifty325i 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 My old mans had his 1988 911 Carrera for 15yrs and its been pretty darn good relaibility wise, his has the 3.2 with a Getrag gearbox though so a little different i think. I love it, its great fun to drive but just not fast enough, thats not what these cars are about though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 storage for ten years?!.....that would be a huge warning to me......i hope its been looked after. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg111 13 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 I would hope it has been driven a bit in the ten years it's been stored, coolant eats through gaskets like nothing else if it's not moving through the engine, also rubber seals go hard= oil leaks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bimmer boy 21 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) My old mans had his 1988 911 Carrera for 15yrs and its been pretty darn good relaibility wise, his has the 3.2 with a Getrag gearbox though so a little different i think. I love it, its great fun to drive but just not fast enough, thats not what these cars are about though Yeah deffinatly not in it for the speed, just Dad thought it would be something different for me to drive around. From some research I have done they looks to be pretty reliable but a car is really only as reliable as the person who looks after it.. I just would like to know it will be reliable since it will be my daily car to get to work and uni. But i guess you cant expect perfect reliability from a 25-26 year old car haha. Regardless of whether I pay for upkeep or not. storage for ten years?!.....that would be a huge warning to me......i hope its been looked after. It was the womans husbands who died a while back, so I assume a bit of engine work will be needed to get her back up, gaskets and such like was mentioned above. Edited June 25, 2009 by RJS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bravo 35 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 It's not in Kerikeri is it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bimmer boy 21 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 It's not in Kerikeri is it? Nope, think its a bit out of Auckland, no idea where though.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bravo 35 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 THere's a white one in KK with a similar story (long time storage, widower owner, in white). But I didn't think it was for sale, and the deceased was a very close friend of mine. Now I think about it though, the one I'm thinking of is a bit older than 1983. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmarco 56 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Niiiice! I love these! That kind of vehicle has to be looked after. And if it is anything like the later ones, any maintenance is big $$$ as you start at the exhaust and work your way in to get to the headlamps.... Not for the faint of heart or wallet. Not sure I would want one to be driving to Uni in one as you say. Too much vehicle to be parked on the side of the street or in a student carpark. And too many wankers, theives, and morons around... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 I would hope it has been driven a bit in the ten years it's been stored, coolant eats through gaskets like nothing else if it's not moving through the engine. Air cooled Greg... agree with the oil leaks on these...rocker covers and pushrod tube seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avenged.SSE 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Niiiice! I love these! That kind of vehicle has to be looked after. And if it is anything like the later ones, any maintenance is big $$$ as you start at the exhaust and work your way in to get to the headlamps.... Not for the faint of heart or wallet. Not sure I would want one to be driving to Uni in one as you say. Too much vehicle to be parked on the side of the street or in a student carpark. And too many wankers, theives, and morons around... Auckland uni carpark is uber safe, I park me 2004 S class there all the time, no problems whatsoever! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex 693 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 I would hope it has been driven a bit in the ten years it's been stored, coolant eats through gaskets like nothing else if it's not moving through the engine, also rubber seals go hard= oil leaks. Air cooled Greg... agree with the oil leaks on these...rocker covers and pushrod tube seals I think Greg was taking the piss… well I hope he was! My uncle has one and still asks the petrol pump attendants to check the Oil and Water These are built like brick sh*t houses, if maintained properly it will serve you well. Brand new porches still leak oil. Take in into Continental and ask for an inspection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex 693 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Auckland uni carpark is uber safe, I park me 2004 S class there all the time, no problems whatsoever! They just assume you are a triad and leave it alone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palazzo 477 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Great car. Just expensive to fix, like $5k for a clutch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CamB 48 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Geez misinformation is rife in this thread. In particular, a clutch is not $5k. I better add to it! Don't take it to Continental for an inspection - take it to someone who sees the aircooled cars every day (eg Motorscience in Grey Lynn). 99% of old Porsches is very durable, if maintained well. Since they're well engineered, they stand up to a good thrashing (if warm). They are simple, and relatively easy to work on (although its a brave man who goes near the engine). Some parts are very expensive, almost all stuff is available - basically the good news is you rarely have to replace stuff on a well maintained car, the bad is it is costly. Check for rust. It will have a 915 gearbox not the aforementioned Getrag, and it will either shift badly or terribly. They're never good. They leak oil, unless you replace every seal (which would cost a sh1tload), although they leak less when used regularly. Speaking of oil, they have a lot of it - >10 litres for an oil change, and you really should do it every 5,000km for a long engine life. The filter is $50. The car will smell of oil - it leaks into the heating system - I quite like it. The only "common" fault on an SC I am aware of it broken head studs - there are 24 studs holding the 6 heads to the crankcase and the originals can snap from fatigue. It's not a common problem per se, but is the only fault which is more common to SCs. If anything is wrong with the engine, a proper rebuild starts at about $10k. Seriously. I dunno - its not really a car for a student. I tend to think of them cars that were $250k new and with the potential maintenance bills for a $250k car. Short version - get it checked by a specialist who sees old cars. Not Conti or Giltrap, even if they tell you they see old cars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CamB 48 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) Just looked at the pic again - I see it's ex-USA (you can tell from the headlights as well as LHD), and looks in the pics like an average respray. LHD affects value. Note - the slightly older 2.7 litre cars (eg 911S) are inferior, as the engine has other problems (unless expensively addressed), and they are more likely to be rusty as not galvanised as extensively (or at all, if older). That's why they are cheaper on Trademe. Edited June 25, 2009 by CamB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bimmer boy 21 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Cheers for the insight.. As I did already meantion in my first post it HAS been looked over by more than one SPECIALIST. But good to get some information from a broard range of people, it might be a BMW site but peoples wealth of knowledge usually extends futher than just BMW. My dad wants to get it for me and I sell my E36 so I wont be covering repair bills.. I dont expect it to be as cheap to own and run as my E36 hence why I dont already own it... haha Note: the picture posted is not of the exact car. Dad just said its the same as the one posted. only RHD and white with the whale tail spoiler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CamB 48 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) If you're set on it and it has a signoff from a specialist, and won't sting you on repair bills ... why not. 3 pieces of new advice: - make sure it has decent tyres - do not lift the throttle mid corner because you went in too fast - do not lift the throttle mid corner because you went in too fast (hint - don't go in too fast) Free fourth bit of advice. Get used to shifting slowly and deliberately ---> do not miss a gear (its easy to do), refer to comment above on engine rebuild cost. Edited June 25, 2009 by CamB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex 693 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) My bad Cam. I was under the impression that Continental work on, restore and store Porsches that make this thing look modern, and that their staff are factory trained and are very knowledgeable and enthusiastic about all things Porsche. My mistake. Edited June 25, 2009 by Apex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CamB 48 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 It's simply that nothing beats old-timer and/or constant experience when it comes to a quirky car like an old Porsche. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palazzo 477 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 My brother in law had a '90 911, which is admittedly newer and possibly more expensive to repair, although I doubt it. He replaced the clutch. It WAS $5k. If someone quotes a number, maybe they have an idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Simon* Report post Posted June 25, 2009 If someone wanted to buy me a cool old 911 to drive everyday at the expense of an E36 I'd do it. Definitely If it shits itself, sell what's left and buy another E36, simple Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites