Garett 103 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 Just the stock head gasket and head studs to worry about then Im interested to see how far it will go, but im going to leave it at that power for now just untill i build a fully forged one with arp hardware, then we'll be having some serious fun, but like i have said before that way way down the line Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 awesome. Can't wait to see it at the track. Standard head gasket? haha yeah standard as Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
328bema 18 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 Haha you may want to drop the c/r or o-ring the block to be safe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 I just signed up to you tube... Ok its not pretty but heres a quick vid of one of the dyno runs.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKnufl1TOEM...eature=youtu.be Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) ah according to the info i have 450hp is about the limits thus why im only running 5psi on a stock bottom end still cheap motors so go hard dude sounds strong on the dyno Edited September 6, 2013 by crunchy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 ah according to the info i have 450hp is about the limits thus why im only running 5psi on a stock bottom end still cheap motors so go hard dude sounds strong on the dyno We talking 450hp at the wheels or the flywheel? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubman 39 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 Orsome work man!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 We talking 450hp at the wheels or the flywheel? motor i deal with alot of the people up finland way that play with these things yes they make 800hp on stock but not for long and its at the motor so they have shown me, and when it goes wrong Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adams202 1 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 Stoked to see it running - solid starting numbers bro good work Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 Stoked to see it running - solid starting numbers bro good work so am i bro its been a long time coming Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 so anyone got a calculation for drive train power loss? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) so anyone got a calculation for drive train power loss? Ok after doing alot of reading im going to say it 20% drive train loss. any objections?? So with 308rwkw which is 20% of 385fkw which is 516hp at the engine and 413bhp Does that sound correct? Edited September 6, 2013 by Garett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahmedsinc 414 Report post Posted September 6, 2013 Ok after doing alot of reading im going to say it 20% drive train loss. any objections?? So with 308rwkw which is 20% of 385fkw which is 516hp at the engine and 413bhp Does that sound correct? No idea! But 413bhp sounds pretty f**king good to me!! How many torques? 20% is a fairly good rule of thumb from what I've seen about the place. I've heard pleanty of hearsay about different transmissions generating different %s of loss but nothing demonstrable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yng_750 247 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 Does it really matter? you can only use the power at the wheels anyway. 15-20% is fairly common place but keep in mind the drag doesnt really increase hugely with power, so if you are running double factory power the gearbox doesnt have twice as much friction. Still should be close enough to 500hp at the flywheel which for 10psi is pretty good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 ever dyno i use is 15% 2wd 20% 4wd with ISO correction and TCF 1.00 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted September 9, 2013 Ok we run the car up on 98 octane fuel with 12psi which will be the limit of what I wana push it to, its now making 343kw at the wheels. also really looking forward to getting it back so I can get stuck into sanding and painting it, hopefully over the next few weeks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahmedsinc 414 Report post Posted September 9, 2013 Nice work man, that's a monster output! How many ft/lb is it producing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
328bema 18 Report post Posted September 9, 2013 Wow that is sick as man good stuff ! What colour you going to paint it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted September 9, 2013 what was the TCF setting and what ISO did he use Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted September 9, 2013 what was the TCF setting and what ISO did he use Sorry chief i dont know what you are asking here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted September 9, 2013 Wow that is sick as man good stuff ! What colour you going to paint it? cheers i got the colour off a 2004 nissan gtr colour code KAD, ita a charcoal silvery colour same as whats in the engine bay and interior Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted September 9, 2013 Nice work man, that's a monster output! How many ft/lb is it producing? Dont quote me on this but i think it is around 1000ft/lb in 5th gear but ill have the dyno sheet up soon when i get it back Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted September 9, 2013 Sorry chief i dont know what you are asking here? there numbers that tell how accurate the result is what you have if they were on the money you have about 530hp motor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) torque is divided by diff ratio if you had 1000ft you would know it dont get me wrong im not bagging the result i just question the numbers people get i do this 24/7 i can also work back to the compressor map based on the power your getting/psi to confirm if the dyno guy has done right by you Edited September 9, 2013 by crunchy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) torque is divided by diff ratio if you had 1000ft you would know it dont get me wrong im not bagging the result i just question the numbers people get i do this 24/7 i can also work back to the compressor map based on the power your getting/psi to confirm if the dyno guy has done right by you Yeah im still learning, cheers this is all good stuff to know, not sure what the diff ratio was its been a while since i welded it up, and dont quote me but im thinking its 3.46 or 3.64 Edited September 9, 2013 by Garett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
