byza213 1 Report post Posted March 31, 2013 looking for something around 4 - 5 grand max daily driver prefer bmw nothing more than a 2.8 litre auto or manual is fine tidy condition .im carless at the moment and finding it abit hard to find something decent , i know my price range doesnt leave me with alot of options but i thought id ask for help on here as well thoughts on below ? is that even a real m sport http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/...n-577880715.htm thanks guys 0211486396 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 looking for something around 4 - 5 grand max daily driver prefer bmw nothing more than a 2.8 litre auto or manual is fine tidy condition .im carless at the moment and finding it abit hard to find something decent , i know my price range doesnt leave me with alot of options but i thought id ask for help on here as well thoughts on below ? is that even a real m sport http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/...n-577880715.htm thanks guys 0211486396 well that looks a pretty good candidate to me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 Not real msport by the looks of side trim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Escay 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 VIN says it has Msport suspension and sports seats, nothing about M Aero. My guess it was optioned with a few MSport options (seats, Suspension, alloys) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byza213 1 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 guess the non m sport bumper gives it away also.. he did say it had m suspension and couldnt confirm it was an actually m sport how is it for price? he works at bmw he said when he bought the vehicle he did a pre purchase and fixed any niggly bits that came up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charles28 136 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 Seems like a fair deal. Only thing I don't like is that its an import one, which means it'll have that rough changing Jatco autobox. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charles28 136 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 This 4dr one seems a good deal. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/...n-577611826.htm I decoded it, its got Sport seats, M Sport package + suspension. Code Description (interface) Description (EPC) S243A AIRBAG FUER BEIFAHRER Airbag for front passenger S246A LENKSAEULENVERSTELLUNG MECHANISCH Manually adjust. steering column S277A LM RAD/DOPPELSPEICHENSTYLING BMW LA wheel/double spoke S314A FRONTSCHEIBENWASCHDUESEN BEHEIZT Door mirror / driver's lock, heated P337A M SPORTPAKET M Sports package S354A GRUENKEIL-FRONTSCHEIBE Green windscreen, green shade band S401A SCHIEBE-HEBEDACH, ELEKTRISCH Lift-up-and-slide-back sunroof, electric S411A FENSTERHEBER,ELEKTRISCH VORN/HINTEN Window lifts,electric,front/rear S423A FUSSMATTEN IN VELOURS Floor mats, velours S428A WARNDREIECK Warning triangle and first aid kit S481A SPORTSITZE FUER FAHRER/BEIFAHRER Sports seat S498A KOPFSTUETZEN IM FOND Headrests, rear, mechanically adjustable S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning S556A AUSSENTEMPERATURANZEIGE Outdoor temperature indicator S676A HIFI LAUTSPRECHERSYSTEM HiFi speaker system Code Description (interface) Description (EPC) S686A ANTENNENDIVERSITY Antenna-Diversity S687A RADIOVORBEREITUNG Radio preparation S694A CD-WECHSLER VORBEREITUNG Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer S704A M SPORTFAHRWERK M Sports suspension S710A M LEDERLENKRAD M sports steering wheel, multifunction L807A JAPAN-AUSFUEHRUNG NATIONAL VERSION JAPAN S818A BATTERIEHAUPTSCHALTER Battery master switch S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Transport protection package S928A REIFENSTEUERUNG Tire control Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1662 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 Id check to make sure it actually has sport shocks not some inferior ones as originals may have been replaced at those km. A good drive will usually tell you if you what good shocks should feel like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byza213 1 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 This 4dr one seems a good deal. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/...n-577611826.htm I decoded it, its got Sport seats, M Sport package + suspension. Code Description (interface) Description (EPC) S243A AIRBAG FUER BEIFAHRER Airbag for front passenger S246A LENKSAEULENVERSTELLUNG MECHANISCH Manually adjust. steering column S277A LM RAD/DOPPELSPEICHENSTYLING BMW LA wheel/double spoke S314A FRONTSCHEIBENWASCHDUESEN BEHEIZT Door mirror / driver's lock, heated P337A M SPORTPAKET M Sports package S354A GRUENKEIL-FRONTSCHEIBE Green windscreen, green shade band S401A SCHIEBE-HEBEDACH, ELEKTRISCH Lift-up-and-slide-back sunroof, electric S411A FENSTERHEBER,ELEKTRISCH VORN/HINTEN Window lifts,electric,front/rear S423A FUSSMATTEN IN VELOURS Floor mats, velours S428A WARNDREIECK Warning triangle and first aid kit S481A SPORTSITZE FUER FAHRER/BEIFAHRER Sports seat S498A KOPFSTUETZEN IM FOND Headrests, rear, mechanically adjustable S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning S556A AUSSENTEMPERATURANZEIGE Outdoor temperature indicator S676A HIFI LAUTSPRECHERSYSTEM HiFi speaker system Code Description (interface) Description (EPC) S686A ANTENNENDIVERSITY Antenna-Diversity S687A RADIOVORBEREITUNG Radio preparation S694A CD-WECHSLER VORBEREITUNG Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer S704A M SPORTFAHRWERK M Sports suspension S710A M LEDERLENKRAD M sports steering wheel, multifunction L807A JAPAN-AUSFUEHRUNG NATIONAL VERSION JAPAN S818A BATTERIEHAUPTSCHALTER Battery master switch S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Transport protection package S928A REIFENSTEUERUNG Tire control this one looks ok pity its abit to far though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byza213 1 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 the one i posted even if non m sport it has the suspension and interior confirmed by owner and looks nice i think door cards refurb with is done , common e36 problem good tyres aircon and servicing done etc helps the guy actually works for team mcmilan no leaks etc etc will be viewing tomorrow afternoon , anything else to look out for e36 never owned one before ? mrs had a nice one and drove really good , was a 325 manual Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charles28 136 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) The one your looking at Its got the Seats and Suspension, doesn't really matter about the other bits. As long as its been looked after it should be ok, its got a good chance of being decent with the current owner. Checkout the condition of the plastic cooling system parts such as the Thermostat housing and pipes etc, if its gone a brown colour that means its time to be replaced. (The Plastic Parts) For some reason every E36 I've had needed a new Thermostat and ran cool.. Options Code Description (interface) Description (EPC) S240A LEDERLENKRAD Leather steering wheel S243A AIRBAG FUER BEIFAHRER Airbag for front passenger S314A FRONTSCHEIBENWASCHDUESEN BEHEIZT Door mirror / driver's lock, heated S423A FUSSMATTEN IN VELOURS Floor mats, velours S428A WARNDREIECK Warning triangle and first aid kit S481A SPORTSITZE FUER FAHRER/BEIFAHRER Sports seat S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning S556A AUSSENTEMPERATURANZEIGE Outdoor temperature indicator S676A HIFI LAUTSPRECHERSYSTEM HiFi speaker system S686A ANTENNENDIVERSITY Antenna-Diversity S687A RADIOVORBEREITUNG Radio preparation S694A CD-WECHSLER VORBEREITUNG Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer S704A M SPORTFAHRWERK M Sports suspension L807A JAPAN-AUSFUEHRUNG NATIONAL VERSION JAPAN S818A BATTERIEHAUPTSCHALTER Battery master switch Code Description (interface) Description (EPC) S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Transport protection package S928A REIFENSTEUERUNG Tire control Edited April 1, 2013 by Charles32 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2425 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) As mentioned, definately check for the jatco jerk. Mine was a big thump (and holding gear for longer than normal) changing from first to second gear and was worse at high rpm/throttle. It got to the point i couldnt trust it to get me across a busy intersection, so had to convert to manual. A thump is not normal. I thought nothing of it when i test drove the car. Edited April 1, 2013 by KwS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byza213 1 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 The one your looking at Its got the Seats and Suspension, doesn't really matter about the other bits. As long as its been looked after it should be ok, its got a good chance of being decent with the current owner. Checkout the condition of the plastic cooling system parts such as the Thermostat housing and pipes etc, if its gone a brown colour that means its time to be replaced. (The Plastic Parts) For some reason every E36 I've had needed a new Thermostat and ran cool.. Options Code Description (interface) Description (EPC) S240A LEDERLENKRAD Leather steering wheel S243A AIRBAG FUER BEIFAHRER Airbag for front passenger S314A FRONTSCHEIBENWASCHDUESEN BEHEIZT Door mirror / driver's lock, heated S423A FUSSMATTEN IN VELOURS Floor mats, velours S428A WARNDREIECK Warning triangle and first aid kit S481A SPORTSITZE FUER FAHRER/BEIFAHRER Sports seat S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning S556A AUSSENTEMPERATURANZEIGE Outdoor temperature indicator S676A HIFI LAUTSPRECHERSYSTEM HiFi speaker system S686A ANTENNENDIVERSITY Antenna-Diversity S687A RADIOVORBEREITUNG Radio preparation S694A CD-WECHSLER VORBEREITUNG Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer S704A M SPORTFAHRWERK M Sports suspension L807A JAPAN-AUSFUEHRUNG NATIONAL VERSION JAPAN S818A BATTERIEHAUPTSCHALTER Battery master switch Code Description (interface) Description (EPC) S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Transport protection package S928A REIFENSTEUERUNG Tire control thanks Charles noted will look ot for that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
byza213 1 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) thanks Kelvin i did ask about the gearbox he mentioned when he first purchased the vehicle that its was abit jerky but he replaced some controller that also controls the timing or something like that ?? so rides really smooth now Edited April 1, 2013 by e34play Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 If you are talking about FLY 11 I would agree , it looks like a tidy genuine car owned by someone who values it and with the right bits on it including the style 24 wheels. Question on the wheels are they 7.5 by 17 all round or staggered 7.5 fronts and 8.5 rears , this would be the perfect setup with M sport suspension. There is in fact no such thing as an M-sport model per se, just an extensive list of M-sport accessories. As there are no engine enhancements the only improvements are handling: My personal interpretation is , it needs at least full M-sport suspension options, sports seats and 17 inch M-Sport wheels & front & rear spoilers to legitimately claim to be an M-sport. i agree with the latter points,the seats wheels and suspension are the bits that make the difference,the body kit is the "label" for others Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
euroriffic 609 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 anything else to look out for e36 never owned one before ? As with most 3 series Id be looking out or budgeting for the rear bushes on the lower front arms needing replacing, the drive shaft coupler,clunking in the back over bumps will be rear shock mounts and if it takes awhile to heat up the Tstat will need replacing and upgrade to alloy housing (M50/M52) as 9/10 times youll crack the plastic one putting it back on and do the waterpump while your at it as they can shear the impeller off the shaft at old age. About $100 for pump, 80 for alloy housing and 40 odd I think for Tstat. shock mounts about $60 and bushes price depending on what you want, factory, M3 solid etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
euroriffic 609 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 Just noticed the second one mentioned is the one in Dunedin. not a bad price if everything cheacks out. could be interested in it myself... there is a hole where my old 328i used to be... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
efirty 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2013 Hi Byron, I know the owner of FLY 11 well. He has worked on all of my BMW's over the years and is extremely meticulous and fussy when it comes to maintaining & working on cars As I am living overseas at the moment I havn't actually seen this car but can only presume by previous cars he has owned that this wouldn't be any different. Hope this helps.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goldstone 1 Report post Posted April 14, 2013 How/where did you get the factory spec info? I've got a spec sheet like that from a BMW dealer before, but if you can point me elsewhere (on the Interweb?!) to where it could be independently obtained that would be really handy. Thanks This 4dr one seems a good deal. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/...n-577611826.htm I decoded it, its got Sport seats, M Sport package + suspension. Code Description (interface) Description (EPC) S243A AIRBAG FUER BEIFAHRER Airbag for front passenger S246A LENKSAEULENVERSTELLUNG MECHANISCH Manually adjust. steering column S277A LM RAD/DOPPELSPEICHENSTYLING BMW LA wheel/double spoke S314A FRONTSCHEIBENWASCHDUESEN BEHEIZT Door mirror / driver's lock, heated P337A M SPORTPAKET M Sports package S354A GRUENKEIL-FRONTSCHEIBE Green windscreen, green shade band S401A SCHIEBE-HEBEDACH, ELEKTRISCH Lift-up-and-slide-back sunroof, electric S411A FENSTERHEBER,ELEKTRISCH VORN/HINTEN Window lifts,electric,front/rear S423A FUSSMATTEN IN VELOURS Floor mats, velours S428A WARNDREIECK Warning triangle and first aid kit S481A SPORTSITZE FUER FAHRER/BEIFAHRER Sports seat S498A KOPFSTUETZEN IM FOND Headrests, rear, mechanically adjustable S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning S556A AUSSENTEMPERATURANZEIGE Outdoor temperature indicator S676A HIFI LAUTSPRECHERSYSTEM HiFi speaker system Code Description (interface) Description (EPC) S686A ANTENNENDIVERSITY Antenna-Diversity S687A RADIOVORBEREITUNG Radio preparation S694A CD-WECHSLER VORBEREITUNG Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer S704A M SPORTFAHRWERK M Sports suspension S710A M LEDERLENKRAD M sports steering wheel, multifunction L807A JAPAN-AUSFUEHRUNG NATIONAL VERSION JAPAN S818A BATTERIEHAUPTSCHALTER Battery master switch S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Transport protection package S928A REIFENSTEUERUNG Tire control Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charles28 136 Report post Posted April 14, 2013 How/where did you get the factory spec info? I've got a spec sheet like that from a BMW dealer before, but if you can point me elsewhere (on the Interweb?!) to where it could be independently obtained that would be really handy. Thanks Search in this forum for webetk and it comes up with the info on how to get it. Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
my_e36 43 Report post Posted April 14, 2013 http://www.bimmersport.co.nz/forums/index....showtopic=37227 Here is a link from earlier discussion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted April 15, 2013 http://www.rubmw.ru/vincode/eng/ Chuck ur vin no in here for build sheet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goldstone 1 Report post Posted April 15, 2013 Thanks for that. Brilliant. I now have the full spec sheet for my car :-) http://www.bimmersport.co.nz/forums/index....showtopic=37227 Here is a link from earlier discussion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
