_ethrty-Andy_ 2132 Report post Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) Many of us have specialist tools in our arsenal that in many cases have costed a fair amount of money to obtain. Instead of buying your own, prehaps there is someone below that has what you need that you can hire from! Those with tools and gear to be added to this list, please send me a PM with what you have, and Ill update you onto the list. Please include if you are willing to ship or not Please note, Bimmersport or the OP is not responsible for any "he broke my such and such" disputes. As a general rule, it will be expected that if you break it, you brought it. Both Parties would be expected to sort out by themselves! *If a mod can sticky that would be great??? -------------------- Gaurd Rollers Polley (Troy) - Hamilton, can Ship Evo30 (Ruel) - Auckland OBDI & OBDII Scanners (please include brand) EthrtyAndy (Andy) - Carsoft - Wellington, can Ship Airbag light Reset Sonic_attack (Rod) - Auckland, can Ship S50B32 (not B30) Vanos Cam Locker, Beisan rattle kit tools (S50xxx) M3AN (Dave) - Auckland Spring Compressors/Clamps EthrtyAndy (Andy) - Wellington, can Ship Ball Joint Splitters EthrtyAndy (Andy) - Wellington, can Ship Engine Crane EthrtyAndy (Andy) - Wellington Edited August 28, 2014 by _Ethrty-Andy_ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonic_attack 89 Report post Posted August 27, 2014 I have this airbag reset tool. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/bmw/electrics/auction-770197921.htm OBD1 & OBD2 Finds the fault and dishes out the code, you repair the fault, then use the reset tool to extinguish the dash light. It only works when the fault is repaired obviously. Free use, will ship if the shipping costs are covered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.M.W Ltd 950 Report post Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) I have this airbag reset tool. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/bmw/electrics/auction-770197921.htm OBD1 & OBD2 Finds the fault and dishes out the code, you repair the fault, then use the reset tool to extinguish the dash light. It only works when the fault is repaired obviously. Free use, will ship if the shipping costs are covered. That only works if you can interpret the fault code. Many fault codes are the result of something else that triggers that particular fault. SRS fault codes are one good example. ie: Drivers airbag is not always the air bag. It can be the squib ring or wiring. Occupancy sensor can be wiring, plugs or sensor mat. The list goes on and gets harder with different systems, control units and models. Have fun guys. We deal with this sh*t all day and can still get it wrong.... and our scanners don't cost $100 on Ebay. I have about $20,000 dollars invested over the years in diagnostic equipment, which we will be upgrading soon Edited August 27, 2014 by B.M.W Ltd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.M.W Ltd 950 Report post Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) I might also add, even the best made tool in the world will be a destructive weapon in the hands of a person without the knowledge to use it properly. All tools and equipment need a brain to operate it with experience & knowledge on how that tools works to achieve a satisfying result. You must also be aware of how to operate or use that tool in a safe manner Edited August 27, 2014 by B.M.W Ltd 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonic_attack 89 Report post Posted August 27, 2014 Yup. But if you want to give it a go you're welcome to it. I just got lucky for the one time I used it. The second time I used it was for fitting non airbag steering wheel.. The instructions basically say the same as you did. And it was only $60NZ. :-) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ethrty-Andy_ 2132 Report post Posted August 27, 2014 True. you have to know how to use the tool, but dont think all this is relevant to this threads intended purpose? Noone is saying you have to let whatever it is you have out of your hands. is a mod able to clean up the last few posts? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.M.W Ltd 950 Report post Posted August 27, 2014 True. you have to know how to use the tool, but dont think all this is relevant to this threads intended purpose? Noone is saying you have to let whatever it is you have out of your hands. is a mod able to clean up the last few posts? What needs cleaning up Andy ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonic_attack 89 Report post Posted August 27, 2014 I think your comments are fair and valid Glenn, you could probably take it further and forward safety aspects and the risk involved in fooling around with thing's you aren't trained to be fooling around with. The idea of an airbag going off in my face and smacking my teeth out is as worrisome as a spring compressor letting go and impaling steel fragments in my jaw or opening a hole in my cranium. It's something to think about. DIY is DIY, we could fall off a chair changing a lightbulb or off a ladder pulling leaves out of the guttering. Folk at home are still climbing chairs and ladders though. I think it's all worth a mention though. If someone is confident enough to give something a go they're going to give it a go until they realise they're out of their depth or have bitten off more than they can chew. That's generally what I do, and once the hole is dug, defeat will be admitted and it's time to pass it onto someone more skilled. It could be argued that scenario can be avoided altogether and you take your broken item to a professional to be fixed straight off, that'd be a valid point but for folks either inherent curiosity, financial necessity, or belligerent stubbornness to try fix it themselves regardless. The safety aspect should be a priority though, we should all be covering our ass somehow. 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.M.W Ltd 950 Report post Posted August 27, 2014 Well put Rod, and my intention was not to criticise but to put forward helpful facts. I'm really starting to feel that the forum is turning away from it's intended direction these days 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ethrty-Andy_ 2132 Report post Posted August 27, 2014 I'm really starting to feel that the forum is turning away from it's intended direction these days Probably the reason the forum is moving on to other mediums like Facebook where change isn't resisted. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cliffdunedin 8 Report post Posted August 27, 2014 I totally agree with you Andy and think this post is a great idea... Why shouldn't those wanting to learn and do their own work be able to share our resources... now who has an m52 cam locking tool before I buy one off the bay?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahmedsinc 414 Report post Posted August 27, 2014 Anyone got an ADS interface to get GT1 / INPA running on a 20 pin E36? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duvey 245 Report post Posted August 27, 2014 I have spring compressors, a ball joint splitter, and a OBD1 peake tool on the North Shore that anyone is welcome to borrow. Also lots of other things like torque wrenches and air tools. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2069 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 I have a VAG-COM KKL 409.1 cable with a FT232RL chip. (OBD2 to USB) This is for use with INPA, EDIABAS, NCSExpert, NCS Dummies, DIS/GT1, EasyDIS, & Progman. It is not for the simple minded. It takes a a lot of setup and mucking around. Some of the files can be a pain to get a hold of. But I have most of them and can send via email or dropbox. I do not recommend playing with this unless you have a clear understanding of what you are doing. Especially if you want to use it for programming. You can seriously stuff up the modules on your vehicle. Including totally bricking the module requiring replacement. This is exactly what Glenn and Rod are talking about in the above posts. If you are wanting to program a module I highly recommend leaving it to a qualified pro. Some people will claim they can but know nothing past using it as a diagnostic tool. Here is a quick run down of what is what. http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=561237 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polley 916 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 Well put Rod, and my intention was not to criticise but to put forward helpful facts. I'm really starting to feel that the forum is turning away from it's intended direction these days If you think the forums are bad stay well away from the Facebook groups. Retards helping retards on there. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polley 916 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 I might also add, even the best made tool in the world will be a destructive weapon in the hands of a person without the knowledge to use it properly. All tools and equipment need a brain to operate it with experience & knowledge on how that tools works to achieve a satisfying result. You must also be aware of how to operate or use that tool in a safe manner Had a friend with all sorts of issues, he bought a scanner, lots of sensor faults and car stalling all the time. Told him to check battery connections, ignored me and googled his problem, spent hundreds on replacing sensors to still have the same fault. Turns out battery connections were loose after auto sparky had disconnected to replace blower fan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2956 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) I might also add, even the best made tool in the world will be a destructive weapon in the hands of a person without the knowledge to use it properly. All tools and equipment need a brain to operate it with experience & knowledge on how that tools works to achieve a satisfying result. You must also be aware of how to operate or use that tool in a safe manner Very true, and most of these tools don't come with operating instructions either! That's why I stick to E30s, anything else is far too complicated for a simple sould like. Just ask M3AN about the cam locking tool after Jamez borrowed it .... Edited August 28, 2014 by E30 325i Rag-Top Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3_Power 636 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) I have a VAG-COM KKL 409.1 cable with a FT232RL chip. (OBD2 to USB) This is for use with INPA, EDIABAS, NCSExpert, NCS Dummies, DIS/GT1, EasyDIS, & Progman. It is not for the simple minded. It takes a a lot of setup and mucking around. Some of the files can be a pain to get a hold of. But I have most of them and can send via email or dropbox. I do not recommend playing with this unless you have a clear understanding of what you are doing. Especially if you want to use it for programming. You can seriously stuff up the modules on your vehicle. Including totally bricking the module requiring replacement. This is exactly what Glenn and Rod are talking about in the above posts. If you are wanting to program a module I highly recommend leaving it to a qualified pro. Some people will claim they can but know nothing past using it as a diagnostic tool. Here is a quick run down of what is what. http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=561237 The software you've listed don't actually cause unrecoverable modules as none of them do actual programming as such, just minor coding changes. NCS Expert is misunderstood espcially - you just flash a blank .MAN file back to the module and it'll revert back to original setting - you can mess up VO/FA ect but that's also easily recoverable with other factory tools. INPA if you have the wrong language files it just means the readings will be out, but you'd hardly do any damage with that either as it doesn't re-program modules - worst you can do is wipe out adaptations or misalign EWS with it. Progman is rubbish even with the real GT1 or a good cloned EDIC head - the dealership sometimes even brick their own modules using it as it simply wasn't well written. GT1/DIS ... again diagnostic only so you won't mess anything up and it's basically idiot proof with step by step instructions. What I'd be weary of is the cable used ... if not set up with correct ignition detection and merely an emulated Battery and Ignition On all the time that's when you get into trouble later on with some of the more indepth software. I have over 20 different types of cables in my possession - basically anything you can find on ebay or the likes I will have it, and I can tell you for a fact that the majority of FTDI based cables now are all fakes - the chips are all fakes and they can lead to issues later on (if the FTDI mark rubs off it's a fake chip, the real ones are laser etched). Most Vagcom cables are also just a cheap alternative to doing BMW related stuff. I have a genuine BMW KKL FTDI (genuine chip) cable in possession and this has zero modification on the board and the board is way larger than anything I've seen recently - this has true battery and ignition detection separately and is the only KKL cable in my collection that works correctly with every piece of software there is out there. Similarly the K+D Can cables, there are the good ones and the cheap ones and these again don't always operate correctly (From the stuff I've bought in the past there's roughly 3 types of these floating out there and only one has true battery and ignition detection with the correct pins all populated). In keeping with the thread ... I can offer to recover all bricked MSS54, MSS54HP or MSS52 and MSS50 DMEs (all risk no responsibility) and it requires soldering of BDM headers onto your board, so beware of this as it'll never be the same once I do this to it. I can also turn all MSS54HP into a virgin DME (i.e. brand new) - tested today and confirmed to work correctly. Edited August 28, 2014 by M3_Power Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BreakMyWindow 1874 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 The software you've listed don't actually cause unrecoverable modules as none of them do actual programming as such, just minor coding changes. NCS Expert is misunderstood espcially - you just flash a blank .MAN file back to the module and it'll revert back to original setting - you can mess up VO/FA ect but that's also easily recoverable with other factory tools. INPA if you have the wrong language files it just means the readings will be out, but you'd hardly do any damage with that either as it doesn't re-program modules - worst you can do is wipe out adaptations or misalign EWS with it. Progman is rubbish even with the real GT1 or a good cloned EDIC head - the dealership sometimes even brick their own modules using it as it simply wasn't well written. GT1/DIS ... again diagnostic only so you won't mess anything up and it's basically idiot proof with step by step instructions. What I'd be weary of is the cable used ... if not set up with correct ignition detection and merely an emulated Battery and Ignition On all the time that's when you get into trouble later on with some of the more indepth software. I have over 20 different types of cables in my possession - basically anything you can find on ebay or the likes I will have it, and I can tell you for a fact that the majority of FTDI based cables now are all fakes - the chips are all fakes and they can lead to issues later on (if the FTDI mark rubs off it's a fake chip, the real ones are laser etched). Most Vagcom cables are also just a cheap alternative to doing BMW related stuff. I have a genuine BMW KKL FTDI (genuine chip) cable in possession and this has zero modification on the board and the board is way larger than anything I've seen recently - this has true battery and ignition detection separately and is the only KKL cable in my collection that works correctly with every piece of software there is out there. Similarly the K+D Can cables, there are the good ones and the cheap ones and these again don't always operate correctly (From the stuff I've bought in the past there's roughly 3 types of these floating out there and only one has true battery and ignition detection with the correct pins all populated). In keeping with the thread ... I can offer to recover all bricked MSS54, MSS54HP or MSS52 and MSS50 DMEs (all risk no responsibility) and it requires soldering of BDM headers onto your board, so beware of this as it'll never be the same once I do this to it. I can also turn all MSS54HP into a virgin DME (i.e. brand new). There is some misleading info on that bimmerfest link in regards to getting INPA and DIS setup. I spent a lot of hours using that as a guide and only got as far as getting INPA to run. I could never quite get the API test in DIS to pass. DIS v44 imo works best in conjunction with an early version of VMware (6.0) on an xp machine. Instead of building a VM and installing/configuring DIS to run I found an image which is pre-configured and just worked off the bat - No emulator needed to represent the yellow head (diaghead) adapter. Happy to assist anyone who is wanting to setup INPA and DIS v.44 on an xp machine. I looked at using DIS v57 but v44 was better suited to my car for Vanos diagnostics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.M.W Ltd 950 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 If you think the forums are bad stay well away from the Facebook groups. Retards helping retards on there. Been looking... and totally agree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3_Power 636 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) There is some misleading info on that bimmerfest link in regards to getting INPA and DIS setup. I spent a lot of hours using that as a guide and only got as far as getting INPA to run. I could never quite get the API test in DIS to pass. DIS v44 imo works best in conjunction with an early version of VMware (6.0) on an xp machine. Instead of building a VM and installing/configuring DIS to run I found an image which is pre-configured and just worked off the bat - No emulator needed to represent the yellow head (diaghead) adapter. Happy to assist anyone who is wanting to setup INPA and DIS v.44 on an xp machine. I looked at using DIS v57 but v44 was better suited to my car for Vanos diagnostics. Wrong ... DIS and INPA works best with Windows 7 (32 or 64 bit) on a duo or quad core machine (very fast) depending on what car you are working on (later INPAs are 64bit only). VMware 6.5 is the most stable from my experience, but you can still create or run systems on later releases like 8, 9 and 10. What people don't understand is INPA, EDIABAS and basically the whole BMW Tools suite and different releases are made for specific periods of cars and productions and some don't work on 32bit machines or cross over to different models very well - most also try to put too many models on - or the wrong files and setup. I've also created a DIS program disc that has v44 coding and v57 diagnostics together .. works perfect (in both VMware and T30 clone laptops). Many also don't get that easydis is created by Ken Fister and you don't need a diagnostic head to use this version (you can put v44 or v57 program into this, or which ever version you have and it will work fine (you can also turn on Mini and Rolls Royce within DIS together with BMW models) - you don't need a ADS cable either to work with earlier cars unless you want automatic recognition rather than manual selection of car model (what you must have is the correct round plug cable with the correct wires populated). You should see the amount of stuff I have on my diagnostic laptop ... you can have everything on one laptop without running multiple virtual systems - you just need to know how to set them up correctly. Another myth is the Com1 port myth (much like the PA Soft 1.4 doesn't work on 64bit Win7 - it most certainly does, I wrote a how to on it!!)... I have different cables set up for different Com port .. .Com1 happens to be the one I never use LOL .. Edited August 28, 2014 by M3_Power 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 I have many things, I do not mind people coming over if it suits me to have a beer and a play with their car. (conditions apply) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tidy30 38 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 Been looking... and totally agreeI treat the forums as a refuge from the people on Facebook. I may not contribute much around here but value the community here a heck of a lot more than the Facebook one.We should have a thread where we discuss where we would like to see the fourms go and how we can consciously contribute to achieve it. I certainly think its possible, I've seen it done before. This is our community, there's little stopping us from being aware and conscious of cultures we want to develop. I would hate for the forums to completely disappear as the thought of bring exposed solely to the Facebook scares my very core 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twisted 45 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 I have M52 cam lock tools. Currently on loan to a member Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BreakMyWindow 1874 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 Wrong ... DIS and INPA works best with Windows 7 (32 or 64 bit) on a duo or quad core machine (very fast) depending on what car you are working on (later INPAs are 64bit only). VMware 6.5 is the most stable from my experience, but you can still create or run systems on later releases like 8, 9 and 10. What people don't understand is INPA, EDIABAS and basically the whole BMW Tools suite and different releases are made for specific periods of cars and productions and some don't work on 32bit machines or cross over to different models very well - most also try to put too many models on - or the wrong files and setup. I've also created a DIS program disc that has v44 coding and v57 diagnostics together .. works perfect (in both VMware and T30 clone laptops). Many also don't get that easydis is created by Ken Fister and you don't need a diagnostic head to use this version (you can put v44 or v57 program into this, or which ever version you have and it will work fine (you can also turn on Mini and Rolls Royce within DIS together with BMW models) - you don't need a ADS cable either to work with earlier cars unless you want automatic recognition rather than manual selection of car model (what you must have is the correct round plug cable with the correct wires populated). You should see the amount of stuff I have on my diagnostic laptop ... you can have everything on one laptop without running multiple virtual systems - you just need to know how to set them up correctly. Another myth is the Com1 port myth (much like the PA Soft 1.4 doesn't work on 64bit Win7 - it most certainly does, I wrote a how to on it!!)... I have different cables set up for different Com port .. .Com1 happens to be the one I never use LOL .. Be interested to see how snappy your install of dis is. Running mine on an old stinkpad... core2 with 4g of ram. Admitantly I didn't try win7 32 but I did try it with win7 x64 with a fresh build using easydis. I lost patience and went with xp and the dis v44 image. If it's significantly quicker on win7 I will look in to rebuilding as xp fux me off... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites