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Best FWD drift if the vid works... P1000370.MOV

Finally got round to posting some pics of Jon's car just before and after it crashed and what it looked like when pulled out - Only a BMW could have driven home after this!!!

Not only are they getting these previas they have already ordered and are in the process of decking out hyundai h1 vans too - they are the passenger version which is easily noticiable by its two tone paint job, colour at top and lower part is grey. They also have a hyundai sonata in wgtn as an unmarked car, and a few santa fe 4wds. You have been warned....

See ya tonight then!

Unfortuanatly that wasn't my footage! However i did get another couple of crashes on video! Will be tryin to upload them at some point! Will post up some pics of Jons car here too tonight hopefully.

Anytime Jon, the link is below for the youtube vid, will try and upload some pics today for you! It'll be as good as new by Manfield!

Happy bday paul!

I had one a week ago on one of my wrecks! Can put you in touch with the guy that took the wreck from me. It is a prefl bonnet - i assume it fits fl too? Will be at melling tonight if you want to know more. Cheers, Kerry.

Will definatly try and make it there jon!

Re. bushes Talk to paul @ interpart his bimmersport id is '#14' He will be able to help you with bushes and any other suspension components. He has sorted 99% of my bushes and my shocks for me. Good luck with them.

I had them on my e36 last time round (running toyo's for a change!), nothing but good things to be said - and they are extremely quiet tyres normally. Also running them on the front of my old mans e36. Good all round tyre. Only bad point i can see is they wear out slightly quicker than the sport maxxx. Probably not too relevant to the post - but they would be worth getting again. Talk to people in the know ie. 'zenetti' about some new rubber. Good luck.

Yes i am getting round to removing the rad and shroud - will prob be done next weekend as i work funny hours etc. However did have time to change my tranny mounts today - and it made no difference to the fan jamming. However the car changes gear smoother! Will update after i have taken the shroud off.

As long as this diagram is correct then yes it is. The 4 bolts holding the fan to the coupling go from the rear to the front ie. the heads are on the back of the fan. If that makes sense? The problem is the fan cannot go further forward because it is already jamming on the rad, and it can't go back anymore because it is already making contact with the rad hose. There just isn't enough room for it all!

Do you mean forwards and backwards play? No it doesn't, however i will double check.

The radiator is as far forward as it can go, and is sitting in the bottom mounts and is done up tight on the top bolt. The engine mounts look fine as said before. On the occasion when the coolant came out the car wasn't overheating, and was before i jammed the fan again. It may of just been coolant coming out of the overflow though. ....something is definatly not in the right place thats for sure!

The pipe on the car is one i have just replaced a week ago with a new oem one! And i've tied it back as much as possible. On a more interesting note, when i pulled up at home tonight i got out the car had dinner and then got back into the car reversed back and there was a big pool of coolant!! So i proceeded to find where that was coming from and couldn't! And running the engine didn't help so i took it for a quick 2min thrash, and when i got home no more coolant has leaked, however the viscous fan had jammed again! so i had a good look and 1 blade of the fan had jammed on the bottom of the rad! So this now bring me to the question that if i remove the shroud will it make any difference anyway?! Also shows that it only jammed under 'spirited driving conditions' ie hard acceleration/cornering. I really am at a complete loss now as to my next move. I'm up in aucks tomorrow. So i think this weekend after work i'll be pulling the rad out, removing the shroud and putting in new tranny mounts and then see if i can make it jam again! I love e30's but i also f**ken hate them at times!

Can't beat these little beauties!! http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=205104800 Gotta love hamann wheels, with dish!

Well after talking to vijay, and him having a quick look he can't see why its happening either and he said the same thing - get rid of the shroud, and hopefully that solves the problem! So it looks like thats what i'll have to do - however that still doesn't solve the problem of why the fan is hitting the rad pipe! The only thing that we can come up with is that the pipe is expanding that much when hot thats its then coming into contact with the fan? Even though it is tied as far back as possible!

scumbags.... I guess on the plus side though you still have your car, it hasn't been for a joy ride then handed back to you!

+1 did exactly the same thing! And from memory the weren't cheap either, about 50 each new for oem ones with sheilds! Had mine 'glowing and then some' round manfield! haha. Probably some of the best money i've spent on my e30! Good on ya Wayne!

Right i've just ordered new gearbox mounts from Jeff Gray BMW, which i'll have on thursday, then i'll install them and see how i go! I'll also gonna go and see Vijay @ Page European today and see what his thought are on the subject! Is it an option to run without the shroud at all? It is obviousely there for a reason i know, but will it really do that much harm to lose it completely? Engine mounts look ok, and are tight. Will check x-member is tight today also.

It shouldn't be engine mounts as there are 2 brand new oem ones in there, installed less than a month ago! I will get new tranny mounts tomorrow and see if this cures anything. The fan isn't 'jamming' on the hose however at some point it is having contact with it, whether this is happening when it jams on the shroud or under acceleration i don't know. Last time i tried to get the fan out with the rad in i couldn't - there isn't enough room, it hits the rad before it is unwound completely! Which is why i took the rad out last time. On the subject of viscous vs electric i have had everyone tell me different storys. 1/2 prefer elec and the other 1/2 prefer viscous. What reasoning is there for one or the other? The car is mainly a road car but will be taken on the track at any and every oppurtunity. It does get driven pretty hard. All i know is that it would solve this problem. Also the viscous uses engine power, yes i know not alot, and prob not noticable but it is still a reason. An electric should also be more effecient i would assume? Anyone for pro's and con's on this subject or someone that has tried both?

Andre3000 were you planning on putting exhaust manifold gaskets on there with the heat sheilds?? These headers get bloody hot and i'm sure could melt through your leads! Even with my gaskets/sheilds there is a fair bit of heat under the bonnet!!

Well this would explain my other prob, vibration through the steering wheel in 1st gear under hard acceleration. I think i'd better change my tranny mounts and check that the x-member is tight! I would love to remove the shroud, however the only way to do it is to remove the rad again!, as there is that little room to move down there. And whilst i did it last week, bleeding the coolant system didn't go according to plan haha. The other option is to cut it off, but that would just be a waste of a shroud! I am going to take the car up to vijay @ page european tomorrow and see what he thinks - the best option may be to just loose the viscous in favour of an electric unit! However whilst the is the 'easy way out' i would still love to know why it is happening! Oh and yes this problem was pre-existing, it all started from a track day at manfield! The fan was catching on the shroud that time - and i'm 99% sure thats whats happening this time, however why is it catching? And the shroud is obviousely there for a reason, can i run the car car without it permanantly?

Ok from what i can see the fan is jamming on the shroud. However the shroud is in place properly and it has been running fine up until today. Also the pipe is tied out of the way and yet it has at some point (i assume today) made its mark on the hose that goes around the distributer cap. I can only assume the waterpump is fine as it was replaced late last year with a brand new oem one, and has prob done less than <5000km. Also when freed the viscous spins as normal ...until the next time it jams... The engine mounts have also just been replaced - however would stuffed tranny mounts make any difference to movement in the engine? ie, then in turn cause the viscous to hit that rad pipe?