huff3r 347 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 Sounds like you've spent a fair bit on maintenance lately, why don't you keep it for a bit longer to make the most of it while you know nothings going to go wrong? Altarnatively you can buy dudlee for less than your budget... 318i 4 door manual. Yeah, thats possibly the more sensible choice. Maybe i should wait till after the Airforce Recruit Course (if i get in!!). As for the "nothings going to go wrong". Umm.. it is a Subaru, something will always go wrong Driving it this morning remembered how much i love how effortless everything is, especially things like Tawa on-ramp going North, none of the above cars would hit 100 by the time they reached the motorway but the RS will Choices suck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Top Secret 2 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 You will miss the Subaru I'm sure. I've had 2 of them. First one was an utter piece of sh*t BC Legacy GT, which was my first car, but I loved it. I then bought another one later on, but it had a possumlink ecu, split fuel rails, sti turbo, equal length headers and all these other bits. 2 inches worth of receipts. It was absolutely mint. I actually still regret selling it. I say use it and appreciate it up until something else goes wrong, you may as well enjoy the money you've put into it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c.robertson00 11 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 Good men! Did my time, loved it. Great career choice sh*t I sound like a recruiting officer! Were you an Aircraft Technician Simon? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Simon* Report post Posted March 11, 2010 Nope. A driver Aircraft Tech is a bloody good trade though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 I'd get the Bronsit 318i for a daily.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forrest 35 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) i love how effortless everything is, especially things like Tawa on-ramp going North, none of the above cars would hit 100 by the time they reached the motorway but the RS will I beg to differ. I know of a certain car that could do that Edited March 12, 2010 by Forrest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R90S 2 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 Reading this thread, it's easy to get the impression from some posts that all BMW's are cheap to run and Subaru's aren't . . . For a start, you're not comparing apples with apples. The only thing your RS has remotely in common with a 318 is the used $$ value. There's nothing else comparable between them - size, styling, mechanical layout, specifications, performance, driving characteristics etc etc. You're trying to make an emotional decision and then defend it with logic. Fact is, if you want cheap reliable motoring, buy a late model Corolla. Anything else is a calculated risk. I drive an early Legacy GT single turbo wagon as a daily driver while the M3 stays cosily tucked up in the shed, and i grimace every time i fill the fuel tank. I grit my teeth at only getting 30,000km out of a set of Toyo T1R tyres. I block my ears when I hear talk of head gasket failures, big-end failures, lunched turbo's and CV joints. But I get a perverse grin when I pull out to pass, or see a sign warning of a winding road ahead. It's like owning an M3 station wagon in disguise. Logically, using the GT as a daily driver is not clever in some ways, but I works for me because I can carry crap around when necessary, tow crap when necessary, and carry five people when necessary. These features make it easier to justify my choice of transport. So far, my expense has been limited to maintenance items, not expensive things breaking. My suggestion is to figure out what your priorities in a vehicle are, and then arrange a test drive if possible in a few of the vehicle options available to you. I'm picking that your decision will then become much easier to make. Remember, you're the one who's going to be driving the car, and you're the one who needs to be happy with it. My $0.02c Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huff3r 347 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Are Auto 1.8s worth getting? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/C...n-276463917.htm Says he want swaps haha... but somehow i think im better off with my suby Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubman 39 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Are Auto 1.8s worth getting?If you want a Daily driver, autos are better. Especially when traffics slow. Thats damn tidy, but for a straight swap not really worth it. I'd ask cash your way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huff3r 347 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 If you want a Daily driver, autos are better. Especially when traffics slow. Thats damn tidy, but for a straight swap not really worth it. I'd ask cash your way. Well I am a pizza boy, so yeah an auto would be great. But im also an enthusiast, and i don't know if an auto could cut it. I havent driven one, but surely it would ruin the cars awesome handling, by removing the potential for engine braking? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubman 39 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 potential for engine braking?I mostly engine brake when its a speed bump. I've got 20 speed bumps on my road But if you're delivering pizzas, i'm sure i wouldnt be happy if my pizza came all mooshed up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huff3r 347 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 I mostly engine brake when its a speed bump. I've got 20 speed bumps on my road But if you're delivering pizzas, i'm sure i wouldnt be happy if my pizza came all mooshed up They come out fine with the power of the suby getting them round I also ride a motorcycle, so i've learnt a lot about using the engine properly to get around, and to keep grip levels up on corners I'm probably still sh*t at it tho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oscar90 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 wouldnt go from a RS to a pre facelift 318 auto unless he was paying you to do so lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palazzo 438 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Reading this thread, it's easy to get the impression from some posts that all BMW's are cheap to run and Subaru's aren't . . . For a start, you're not comparing apples with apples. The only thing your RS has remotely in common with a 318 is the used $$ value. There's nothing else comparable between them - size, styling, mechanical layout, specifications, performance, driving characteristics etc etc. You're trying to make an emotional decision and then defend it with logic. Fact is, if you want cheap reliable motoring, buy a late model Corolla. Anything else is a calculated risk. I drive an early Legacy GT single turbo wagon as a daily driver while the M3 stays cosily tucked up in the shed, and i grimace every time i fill the fuel tank. I grit my teeth at only getting 30,000km out of a set of Toyo T1R tyres. I block my ears when I hear talk of head gasket failures, big-end failures, lunched turbo's and CV joints. But I get a perverse grin when I pull out to pass, or see a sign warning of a winding road ahead. It's like owning an M3 station wagon in disguise. Logically, using the GT as a daily driver is not clever in some ways, but I works for me because I can carry crap around when necessary, tow crap when necessary, and carry five people when necessary. These features make it easier to justify my choice of transport. So far, my expense has been limited to maintenance items, not expensive things breaking. My suggestion is to figure out what your priorities in a vehicle are, and then arrange a test drive if possible in a few of the vehicle options available to you. I'm picking that your decision will then become much easier to make. Remember, you're the one who's going to be driving the car, and you're the one who needs to be happy with it. My $0.02c Ahh, the voice of common sense, I still miss my single turbo RS. CV joints were the only issue in 140,000kms. Cheap transport, Corolla, of pretty much any vintage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huff3r 347 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Ahh, the voice of common sense, I still miss my single turbo RS. CV joints were the only issue in 140,000kms. Cheap transport, Corolla, of pretty much any vintage. BTW I'm also open to suggestions, but if you so much as mention corolla, laser, etc i will not even dignify it with a responce Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg111 13 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 I'd go with the Sub any day, far better car IMO. Done a lot of work on a certain GTB, 184,000km and still going strong, it's by far NOT a gas guzzler also. Will be doing the cambelt very soon, seems fairly easy to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huff3r 347 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 I'd go with the Sub any day, far better car IMO. Done a lot of work on a certain GTB, 184,000km and still going strong, it's by far NOT a gas guzzler also. Will be doing the cambelt very soon, seems fairly easy to do. Just interested here, how did you manage to make it NOT a gas guzzler? I'm lucky to get 11L/100km and on 95 as well I'm thinking i will stick with the suby for now, and if i can afford to at some stage i might get another E30/E21 as a daily driver/project to go along with the suby, rather than replace it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRTDVL 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 get a 306 xsi for a daily... Pug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg111 13 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Didn't make it not a gas guzzler, it never has been bad on fuel, it's manual so is naturally better than an auto. Oh and you would proberly spend more on a 306 than a Sub. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huff3r 347 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Didn't make it not a gas guzzler, it never has been bad on fuel, it's manual so is naturally better than an auto. Oh and you would proberly spend more on a 306 than a Sub. Mine is a manual too (never owned an auto ) but it is terrible on gas, especially with the primary turbo spinning at motorway cruising speeds! And it doesnt seem to matter whether i drive it quick or gentle, it still keeps sucking it down... You dont wanna know how much money i lose a week driving it for work Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRTDVL 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 anouther frenchie! Greg. My 306 didn't cost me much at all... just regular maintenance and things you would expect with wear and tear... i.e. control arm bushes, harmonic balancer (170,000km). Give how much abuse the car got it was much more reliable then people thought. Also, Auckland to taupo with a full car load of GF's crap, spare race tyres, tools, etc.. then 20 laps on the full track, and still had 1/4 of a tank in the car... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg111 13 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 (edited) Weird? Assume it's the same spec motor than a GTB? Edit: Just going on the things i've experienced with 306s but in saying that there were proberly Monday morn/Friday arvo ones. Edited March 14, 2010 by Greg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huff3r 347 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 anouther frenchie! Greg. My 306 didn't cost me much at all... just regular maintenance and things you would expect with wear and tear... i.e. control arm bushes, harmonic balancer (170,000km). Give how much abuse the car got it was much more reliable then people thought. Also, Auckland to taupo with a full car load of GF's crap, spare race tyres, tools, etc.. then 20 laps on the full track, and still had 1/4 of a tank in the car... I'm sure i mentioned somewhere previously that i am fussed over looks And ugly just dont cut it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huff3r 347 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Weird? Assume it's the same spec motor than a GTB? Not quite, because it's the 1st of the BD5s it has a slightly smaller primary turbo, and only develops 183kw not 205, but i'd expect that to make it better on the gas? Maybe it needs a bit of maintanence then Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg111 13 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Not quite, because it's the 1st of the BD5s it has a slightly smaller primary turbo, and only develops 183kw not 205, but i'd expect that to make it better on the gas? Maybe it needs a bit of maintanence then 206 Not sure what the prob is? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
