No name user 379 Report post Posted May 6, 2012 thats a s300/200 if im not wrong what happened to the to4z? you not going to use the cast manifolds and turn them upside down and two separate pipes to each scroll? im doing 6-2-1 also since i stood the motor up i have a ton more room to work with plus the pipe off the turbo is 4" and thatll still pass the steering and motor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted May 6, 2012 crunchy what do you think about 2 38mm waste gates as they are cheap and available. that way in also can completely separate the flow in the twin scroll. yep works good dude try to get them to come off at a 45 deg angle in relation to flow but you can only do what room allows Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) thats a s300/200 if im not wrong what happened to the to4z? you not going to use the cast manifolds and turn them upside down and two separate pipes to each scroll? Haha na this is a pic i found on Bimmerforums nope im using the m52 stainless ones to the first v band then the rest will be mild im doing 6-2-1 also since i stood the motor up i have a ton more room to work with plus the pipe off the turbo is 4" and thatll still pass the steering and motor. yeah mines 4" stainless atm, i will need to get a bit of 4" pipe and run it through under the headers and around the steering column to make sure there is enough room, i might make a custom engine mount for that side too to give me a bit more room. Edited May 6, 2012 by Garett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted May 6, 2012 Haha na this is a pic i found on Bimmerforums nope im using the m52 stainless ones to the first v band then the rest will be mild the 4'' off mine will tapper down to 3" over about 300mm there's not enough room under the car to run that size plus you can pull over 1000hp on a 3" system yeah mines 4" stainless atm, i will need to get a bit of 4" pipe and run it through under the headers and around the steering column to make sure there is enough room, i might make a custom engine mount for that side too to give me a bit more room. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted May 6, 2012 I like it how the weight of the turbo is taken from the block, which is less stress on the manifold right Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted May 6, 2012 I like it how the weight of the turbo is taken from the block, which is less stress on the manifold right yes correct just make sure you oversize the manifold bolt holes to the head to allow movement or it ll keep braking studs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted May 6, 2012 yes correct just make sure you oversize the manifold bolt holes to the head to allow movement or it ll keep braking studs thanks will do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted May 6, 2012 Cheers James for stopping by in the weekend to have a look at the progress pitty you didnt have any beers on ya lol Seems there are a lot of BMW turbo builds going on at the moment.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorburn 120 Report post Posted May 7, 2012 Next time. Cheers for showing me around It is a very impressive project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted May 9, 2012 Do you think these 38mm tial gates are real? www.Sella.co.nz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polley 916 Report post Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Check out the tial page on how to check for knock offs. http://www.tialsport.com/realvsfake.html That one on sella appears to be genuine ( looking at the v band flanges) Edited May 9, 2012 by polley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted May 9, 2012 Do you think these 38mm tial gates are real? www.Sella.co.nz they appear to be the real thing they normally go for 350 or so Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted May 9, 2012 they appear to be the real thing they normally go for 350 or so yeah that's what makes me wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted May 9, 2012 yeah that's what makes me wonder could be a bargain too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted May 9, 2012 could be a bargain too i'll go have a look in person, after i do some research and see how many hes got Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted May 9, 2012 i'll go have a look in person, after i do some research and see how many hes got and when its all in and running as the saying goes "life begins at 20psi" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) and when its all in and running as the saying goes "life begins at 20psi" hell yeah... Never owned a turbo car till now lol oh and i found a m54b30 complete block kicking around work, i think ill be using that later haha EDIT: turns out its a m54b25 block However i can get hold of M50 intake cams, read somewhere you can put the intake on the exhaust side to give better lift. has anyone done this?? worth doing? I purchased 2 50mm v bands $41.50each and a twin scroll t4 flange 28$ today so i can now make the bracket to hold the turbo off the block and start chopping up exhausts to get the bends Edited May 10, 2012 by Garett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted May 10, 2012 I emailed the guy on the tial website about the wastegates, he told me they were fake... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polley 916 Report post Posted May 10, 2012 I have done the dual intake cam swap, it needs a small amount of machining done to it to keep the cam chain in correct alignment. Cant tell if its worth it really, changed a bunch of other stuff at the same time ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMRBOI 8 Report post Posted May 10, 2012 I thought about making a manifold like this one... might help you with your design unless you are going hard out with the manifold. I purchased 2 50mm v bands $41.50each and a twin scroll t4 flange 28$ today so i can now make the bracket to hold the turbo off the block and start chopping up exhausts to get the bends Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted May 10, 2012 I thought about making a manifold like this one... might help you with your design unless you are going hard out with the manifold. I purchased 2 50mm v bands $41.50each and a twin scroll t4 flange 28$ today so i can now make the bracket to hold the turbo off the block and start chopping up exhausts to get the bends it works along the same lines as the j pipes but you end up with a very long pipe off one group of cylinders which increase boost threshold Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) it works along the same lines as the j pipes but you end up with a very long pipe off one group of cylinders which increase boost threshold I was thinking of something like this... 50mm clamps in blue 38mm in red 3" in yellow Its a bit not to scale but you get the drift lol Edited May 11, 2012 by Garett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted May 11, 2012 yep pretty much don't get to hung up on equal length plus or minus an inch or so is fine, as the head turbo man for Audi said " boost overcomes all" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted May 11, 2012 I have done the dual intake cam swap, it needs a small amount of machining done to it to keep the cam chain in correct alignment. Cant tell if its worth it really, changed a bunch of other stuff at the same time ! im having custom cams done for the m50 if your ever in the need just sourcing the lash caps and they will be exchange ans at a price that you cant refuse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garett 103 Report post Posted May 11, 2012 im having custom cams done for the m50 if your ever in the need just sourcing the lash caps and they will be exchange ans at a price that you cant refuse sounds good Im sure ill need some of those down the track a bit.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
