///MPROVD 131 Report post Posted October 24, 2012 hey guys have now got a tired m3 engine at home and was looking at putting the intake manifold on to my m50b25 so is there any real benefit in doing so? any details or advice cheers jayden Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) You can't, well not easily... the M3 has six throttle bodies, the M50 has one. E36 M3 S50B3x M50 Edited October 24, 2012 by antil33t Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e30ftw 396 Report post Posted October 24, 2012 Yeah I don't think they fit straight on.. Could be wrong. Long time since I've had an m50 lol But I remember kerry did something similar with M3 throttlebodys on an m52 (which has the same intake bolt pattern) http://www.bimmersport.co.nz/forums/index....=30332&st=0 Had to make an adapter plate though if you flick through.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg111 13 Report post Posted October 24, 2012 If the port sizes are the same the throttles may bolt up to the head??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted October 24, 2012 hey guys have now got a tired m3 engine at home and was looking at putting the intake manifold on to my m50b25 so is there any real benefit in doing so? any details or advice cheers jayden Not being a smart arse..... are you sure it is a M3 motor like in the first picture ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MD13 459 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 Is the engine so tired you can't use the whole thing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
///MPROVD 131 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 Not being a smart arse..... are you sure it is a M3 motor like in the first picture ? yepp definitely an s50 i am replacing an 400k s50 with a 20k s52 and was considering putting it on my m50 i have seen something similar on a m54 i want to know if first it will fit im well aware the m50 have a single throttle body and the s50 have six this is why i think there could be an advantage but if its not worth the time then i will keep s50 complete its just free so why not haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorburn 120 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 Will not bolt up. You'll need to make an adapter plate, modify the oil filter and the tps to get it to fit. To get it to run you'll also need to conjer something up whether it be a standalone or remap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
///MPROVD 131 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 Will not bolt up. You'll need to make an adapter plate, modify the oil filter and the tps to get it to fit. To get it to run you'll also need to conjer something up whether it be a standalone or remap ohk thanks for the advice i might give it a miss but just out of curiosity do the benefits out weight the work needed to install? i guess its only worth doing if i was to work the motor but there seems to be no point in a factory motor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorburn 120 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 You could turbo it for around the same price and get plenty more power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg111 13 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 If you do get it to work it will be very impressive for such a small upgrade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 yepp definitely an s50 i am replacing an 400k s50 with a 20k s52 Why? Why would you even bother importing a crappy USA S52? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg111 13 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 S52=3.0L M50 Boo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westy 614 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 S52=3.2L M52 Boo. ftfy. But I think we all know what he means. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg111 13 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 Wha? Were they really 3.2? Thought they were a 3.0L iron block. M52 had the alli block. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westy 614 Report post Posted October 25, 2012 Their S50 b30 was the early M50 mota. The S52 b32 was their later M52 thing. All their M52s were iron except Z3 (some S.A. M52s were iron too apparently). Train spotter out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobimmer 694 Report post Posted October 27, 2012 How much you want for the ITB's off the S50. I will make them fit my m50. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
///MPROVD 131 Report post Posted October 27, 2012 Their S50 b30 was the early M50 mota. The S52 b32 was their later M52 thing. All their M52s were iron except Z3 (some S.A. M52s were iron too apparently). Train spotter out. sorry its still an s50 just changing from the 3.0 to 3.2 sorry about the confusion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morerevsm3 7 Report post Posted October 27, 2012 Their S50 b30 was the early M50 mota. The S52 b32 was their later M52 thing. All their M52s were iron except Z3 (some S.A. M52s were iron too apparently). Train spotter out. the 3 litre USA only M3 engine is a S50B30US, and their 3.2 litre version is called an S52B32, our proper engines are S50B30, and S50B32... the throttle bodies require a tapered adaptor plate, a modified oil filter housing, and stand alone ecu to work on an M50/52, and in doing so, leaves injector bosses in less than ideal location, you will only gain 3 or 4 rwhp, but throttle response is improved, there is a guy here that did it, then turbo'd it later, and has since removed that motor and fitted an S50B30 and is finally happy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
///MPROVD 131 Report post Posted October 27, 2012 the 3 litre USA only M3 engine is a S50B30US, and their 3.2 litre version is called an S52B32, our proper engines are S50B30, and S50B32... the throttle bodies require a tapered adaptor plate, a modified oil filter housing, and stand alone ecu to work on an M50/52, and in doing so, leaves injector bosses in less than ideal location, you will only gain 3 or 4 rwhp, but throttle response is improved, there is a guy here that did it, then turbo'd it later, and has since removed that motor and fitted an S50B30 and is finally happy... ohk thanks for the info helps clear that up ill keep it complete and maybe look at putting it in something in future and im just swaping a s50b30 with a s50b32 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
