*Glenn* 854 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/8708396/Fo...-plant-closures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M5V8 337 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 been on the cards for years, someone finally pulled the trigger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultrarandom 3 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 When I heard about this originally it pretty much confirmed my shift from Ford being the favorite manufacturer to BMW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allanw 1071 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 That'll get rid of some crap off the roads! I can believe how badly BA Falcons rust! A mate was looking at around 2006 model xr6's, and quite a few had rust breaking though! He brought a Commodore instead, which he says is still like a tractor, but fits 3 car seats across the back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M5V8 337 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) not really. they are just going to manufacturer them somewhere else (world car program) and Aus will just import them with a few minor local changes. IE - The Falcon will just be a rebadged Taurus or they drop the Falcon badge altogether. Mind you this might not be a bad thing. I hired an Ford Edge whilst in Canada last year. I loved it. (now I feel all dirty for saying I liked a Ford). Edited May 23, 2013 by M5V8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vtgts300kw 90 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 been on the cards for years, someone finally pulled the trigger. Should have happened 20 years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael. 2313 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 So where will they be made now, USA? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahmedsinc 414 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 So where will they be made now, USA? Have heard Ford followed the VW/Audi move to producing a fair bit of their North American product to Mexico. Not sure about the rest of the world though. Poland maybe? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huff3r 347 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 I stopped caring when they stopped selling them in Manual over here. I love mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sp8s 1 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 So I already have my piece of motoring history Still waiting for the right e34 to come up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 So I already have my piece of motoring history Still waiting for the right e34 to come up they dont come much more "right" than this 540 six speed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5amchris 45 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 ^^ Someone buy it and sell me the wheels =) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deeveus 81 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 I imagine FordNZ will concentrate on the far better product offered from Europe. We have a Territory here for the wife and I can confirm they are nothing but a mongrel to own. The Falcon's that I have come across post BA have been total rubbish. No wonder the NZ Police only buy Holden! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZ BMW 368 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 not really. they are just going to manufacturer them somewhere else (world car program) and Aus will just import them with a few minor local changes. IE - The Falcon will just be a rebadged Taurus or they drop the Falcon badge altogether. Mind you this might not be a bad thing. I hired an Ford Edge whilst in Canada last year. I loved it. (now I feel all dirty for saying I liked a Ford). Agree, I usually end up with a Ford Edge when I'm in the US and they're a good SUV. I think it's FWD and thus has not much off-road capability but if you're like most SUV drivers and stick to the roads, it's a good car. IMO Ford USA's products are actually superior to the GM ones. The Ford Fusion is another good 4 door they make, I actually thought it was a falcon of sorts when I drove one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2957 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 The Aussie car industry has had it's head up it's own arse for a long time. If it wasn't for the protective laws keeping out imports and making it more expensive for overseas cars then this would have happened many years ago. Rather than use the protection to their advantage and get up-to-date efficient and productive practises in place the Unions took the opportunity to make things cushy for their members, and generally resist any attempts at becoming competitive - thinking the golden goose would not stop laying eggs. Well now those birds have come home to roost in a big way! At least Holden and Toyota export a large proportion of their production, not just relying on local sales of a dinosaur of a car. However, with only two manufacturers the pressure will be even more extreme on the supply chain (where even more job losses will be felt) to keep going. Hopefully the two remaining will see this as a "wake up call" and the unions and management will be able to work together to develop their methods, fingers crossed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex 693 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 Get a Holden c**t. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M5V8 337 Report post Posted May 23, 2013 The Aussie car industry has had it's head up it's own arse for a long time. If it wasn't for the protective laws keeping out imports and making it more expensive for overseas cars then this would have happened many years ago.so true'imports' (ie - all other cars but holden/ford) are ridiculously priced over there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allanw 1071 Report post Posted May 24, 2013 'imports' (ie - all other cars but holden/ford) are ridiculously priced over there. Yeah... cause they're good, and people want them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sp8s 1 Report post Posted May 24, 2013 Get a Holden c**t.So says the one with all the frog s**t Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deeveus 81 Report post Posted May 24, 2013 So says the one with all the frog s**t Ahahahaha!!! I'm no Ford fan, but that is quite funny. Sorry Apex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex 693 Report post Posted May 24, 2013 I am not a brand man so I don't care, was a wind up, I have have owned dozens of different cars over the years including both Holden's and Fords both new and old, all cars have idiosyncrasies and I wont even begin to bore you with what cars have been reliable and what haven't. I doubt Paul has even seen anything French in Timaru let alone a French car, but to be fair I was surprised they even have the internet so anything is possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
central3 31 Report post Posted May 24, 2013 not really. they are just going to manufacturer them somewhere else (world car program) and Aus will just import them with a few minor local changes. IE - The Falcon will just be a rebadged Taurus or they drop the Falcon badge altogether. Mind you this might not be a bad thing. I hired an Ford Edge whilst in Canada last year. I loved it. (now I feel all dirty for saying I liked a Ford). I saw a few of these in Vancouver 2 weeks ago and they looked great - much better than the pic's (sh*t - did I say that - now I feel dirty too) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingkarl 136 Report post Posted May 24, 2013 I saw a few of these in Vancouver 2 weeks ago and they looked great - much better than the pic's (sh*t - did I say that - now I feel dirty too) nice indeed. Needs much bigger wheels/guards though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allanw 1071 Report post Posted May 24, 2013 I saw a few of these in Vancouver 2 weeks ago and they looked great - much better than the pic's (sh*t - did I say that - now I feel dirty too) I think they're just the new Mondeo aren't they? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmarco 56 Report post Posted May 24, 2013 I suspect that Holden will be not much further behind Ford - I think they already announced a bunch of redundancies recently. They are lucky (smart?) in that their main product is engineered for LHD as well, but the value of the AUD makes it bloody tough to export it and make some cash to pay back the billion dollar development costs. I'd hate to see the NPV at the moment... Agree with Jon - the unions in the industry over there are ridiculous to the point of going out of their way to make business difficult & inefficient. I've seen this personally and was gobsmacked that management hadn't sacked the bloody lot of them already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites