Dingo 1 Report post Posted October 10, 2013 HI all I have a couple of E30's at the moment and I'm about 3/4 through swapping the engines between the two. I have a 320I with body in pretty good nick that I'm putting a M20 2.8 stroker in. So i have pulled the engine out of this car and have the reg on hold and the wof has since lapsed. I pushed the car on to the street outside my house while I have been working on the donor car in the garage. Since the car is on the street with no reg or wof the council (chch) have stung me with a $400 fine. Am I completely in the wrong here or can I do something about this. I will write a letter and explain the situation since I think this is pretty rough considering I have paid up reg and wof on the donor car and my daily. its not like I'm driving around with no reg or wof. I'd like to hear your thoughts if anyone has been through similar situation before. I'm hoping they will be reasonable if they consider the situation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lord_jagganath 421 Report post Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) Got stung in Chch. Send them a letter explaining your circumstances. (and make sure you put a time period of when you had the car out on the street) and yes, it is illegal to park outside without a wof and reg on the street. bty .. was this east side? (near the airport, those c*nts) Edited October 10, 2013 by The Juggernaut Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil-540i 166 Report post Posted October 10, 2013 Yes, hate to break it to you but it is illegal, & they are hard on it in Chch, bigtime. Nice money-making scheme really in circumstances like yours. Comes back to 'legal definition of a road' & various bits in the Land Transport Act. If they're being really queer, they can ticket it on the grass verge outside your place too.......stupid bit is the fine in your situation, is twice what it is for a 'moving vehicle' violation (Eg, if you'd been driving it with no wof........) Letter, & 'expecting them to be reasonable' while they are finding an excuse to extract money from you?? Hmm - you want the Tui ad guys to ring you on landline or mobile........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Etwenty1 45 Report post Posted October 10, 2013 HI all I have a couple of E30's at the moment and I'm about 3/4 through swapping the engines between the two. I have a 320I with body in pretty good nick that I'm putting a M20 2.8 stroker in. So i have pulled the engine out of this car and have the reg on hold and the wof has since lapsed. I pushed the car on to the street outside my house while I have been working on the donor car in the garage. Since the car is on the street with no reg or wof the council (chch) have stung me with a $400 fine. Am I completely in the wrong here or can I do something about this. I will write a letter and explain the situation since I think this is pretty rough considering I have paid up reg and wof on the donor car and my daily. its not like I'm driving around with no reg or wof. I'd like to hear your thoughts if anyone has been through similar situation before. I'm hoping they will be reasonable if they consider the situation. Buy a car cover from supercheap and cover the car. You neighbours will love you too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil-540i 166 Report post Posted October 10, 2013 Buy a car cover from supercheap and cover the car. You neighbours will love you too. I like the idea lots, but then they'll just lift one end of the cover, run the plate, & issue the ticket anyway. Plus if its on a road, you'd maybe then run the risk of being done for 'no rear red reflector' when its parked out there at night - the council guys are seriously picky down in Chch ae...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 1058 Report post Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) bty .. was this east side? (near the airport, those c*nts) Airport is out west HI all I have a couple of E30's at the moment and I'm about 3/4 through swapping the engines between the two. I have a 320I with body in pretty good nick that I'm putting a M20 2.8 stroker in. So i have pulled the engine out of this car and have the reg on hold and the wof has since lapsed. I pushed the car on to the street outside my house while I have been working on the donor car in the garage. Since the car is on the street with no reg or wof the council (chch) have stung me with a $400 fine. Am I completely in the wrong here or can I do something about this. I will write a letter and explain the situation since I think this is pretty rough considering I have paid up reg and wof on the donor car and my daily. its not like I'm driving around with no reg or wof. I'd like to hear your thoughts if anyone has been through similar situation before. I'm hoping they will be reasonable if they consider the situation. Sadly it is illegal. The car is on the road so therefore should have all the bits and pieces to say it is allowed on there. Pics of project?? Edited October 10, 2013 by Gaz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lord_jagganath 421 Report post Posted October 10, 2013 ^ I meant east of the airport blargh... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westy 614 Report post Posted October 10, 2013 Doesn't even need to be on the road to be illegal. Cuncils should never have been allowed to issue anything but parking tickets. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil-540i 166 Report post Posted October 10, 2013 Doesn't even need to be on the road to be illegal. Cuncils should never have been allowed to issue anything but parking tickets. Westy, those magic words that Kye wouldn't give ya yesterday - "You're right!!" And your speelcheckr is still broked...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palazzo 474 Report post Posted October 10, 2013 As the reg is on hold, I'd argue that, it counts as a continuous licence, so can't see why if LTSA recognises it, council doesn't. The wof on the other hand, try a letter, but I don't like your chances. Are you sure a neighbour didn't complain? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westy 614 Report post Posted October 10, 2013 Pretty sure the offence is 'failing to display a current....'. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil-540i 166 Report post Posted October 10, 2013 Pretty sure the offence is 'failing to display a current....'. Correct - that's why people can & do still get ticketed if the 'human element' leads to mistakenly putting the new vehicle licence (rego) behind the old one - if its got a current vehicle licence, but it is not displayed - you're still open to be ticketed... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2002 1 Report post Posted October 11, 2013 I guess you'd be Ok if the car was on a trailer out on the road. Assuming of course that the trailer had a WOF and rego Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil-540i 166 Report post Posted October 11, 2013 I guess you'd be Ok if the car was on a trailer out on the road. Assuming of course that the trailer had a WOF and rego Yes, because technically its no longer a vehicle - its a 'load'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dingo 1 Report post Posted October 11, 2013 I guess you'd be Ok if the car was on a trailer out on the road. Assuming of course that the trailer had a WOF and rego That is genius. If only I had a trailer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil-540i 166 Report post Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) That is genius. If only I had a trailer that my car will fit on, that's got wof & reg too........... I've fixed that up a bit for ya............. Of course, once its on the trailer, the only thing to worry bout then when its out on roadside, is the drop-kick midnight spares retards hooking up the whole lot & dragging it away........ Edited October 11, 2013 by Blue-540i Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ethrty-Andy_ 2132 Report post Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) funny enough its still on google maps, this is my old place http://goo.gl/maps/Gly7P got fined $300 for this. there is an M40 motor under the blue tarp and a front half of an E30 under the pallets. funniest part was that they recommended i get a WOF for the car asap to avoid further fines (if you look "vehind you" you will see my twincam E30, my Lada, and the other half of the car haha Edited October 11, 2013 by _Ethrty-Andy_ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil-540i 166 Report post Posted October 11, 2013 funny enough its still on google maps, this is my old place http://goo.gl/maps/Gly7P got fined $300 for this. there is an M40 motor under the blue tarp and a front half of an E30 under the pallets. funniest part was that they recommended i get a WOF for the car asap to avoid further fines (if you look "vehind you" you will see my twincam E30, my Lada, and the other half of the car haha That's classic.........................!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bezzal 1 Report post Posted October 11, 2013 In the day you were able to tow a car with no WOF that could not be started, we used to remove the battery. Can't remember if it had to be reg or not but it didn't need a warrant. This is how we used to get out to the Waimak with old cars to "practice" rally driving. This was 20+ years ago so may not be relevant anymore. The point is if it was on the road being readied to be towed....long shot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
euroriffic 607 Report post Posted October 11, 2013 I thought it was fine to have no wof but had to have rego Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil-540i 166 Report post Posted October 11, 2013 In the day you were able to tow a car with no WOF that could not be started, we used to remove the battery. Can't remember if it had to be reg or not but it didn't need a warrant. This is how we used to get out to the Waimak with old cars to "practice" rally driving. This was 20+ years ago so may not be relevant anymore. The point is if it was on the road being readied to be towed....long shot. Hmm - query - Waimak. As in Waimak out near Chch by chance?? If its the place you are meaning, I'd be real keen to know when ya were last out that way - I went back earlier this year, & was just shocked at what's changed out there........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bezzal 1 Report post Posted October 11, 2013 Hmm - query - Waimak. As in Waimak out near Chch by chance?? If its the place you are meaning, I'd be real keen to know when ya were last out that way - I went back earlier this year, & was just shocked at what's changed out there........ It has been 5+ since I lived in CHCH, and it has changed a lot over the last 20 years. I used to ride motorbikes out there a lot. Military zone was(still is?) the best. The access down there has been greatly reduced, no wonder though with all the idiots down there chucking rubbish out and ruining the stock banks. Spent a lot of time out there 4WDing as well in my old Range Rover. Great resource to have so close to the city however, 15mins away compared to driving out to Woodhill to go for a blast (which is only 45min so not to bad). You can still go crazy in a jet boat down there however! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil-540i 166 Report post Posted October 11, 2013 It has been 5+ since I lived in CHCH, and it has changed a lot over the last 20 years. I used to ride motorbikes out there a lot. Military zone was(still is?) the best. The access down there has been greatly reduced, no wonder though with all the idiots down there chucking rubbish out and ruining the stock banks. Spent a lot of time out there 4WDing as well in my old Range Rover. Great resource to have so close to the city however, 15mins away compared to driving out to Woodhill to go for a blast (which is only 45min so not to bad). You can still go crazy in a jet boat down there however! Yea - that's what I'm meaning - I used to spend lots of time out there in 4WD's, (& it'd be nearly 10 yrs since I'd been out there)......I was absolutely gobsmacked to see that some needle-d1cked pencil pusher within the Canterbury Regional Council has been able to sign off stealing away public access to public land, to the extent that's happened!! Unbelievable that Cantabrians let that happen!! Jetboats, yea true - obviously only until some lentil-munching jandle-wearing muppet complains about noise or wash though......... Thread Hijack apologies!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted October 11, 2013 got a ticket once in welly for this.Had forgotten,even when i go the new license and went in with it hey didnt waive the ticket Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmw.maniac 1 Report post Posted October 12, 2013 Take the plates off. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites