FRT 144 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 Warning for all you M57 owners and N57, mates X5 M57 twin turbs just snapped the timing chain and totally lunched the motor valves ect $12k. Google that and it's not uncommon. Fault supposed to be corrected 10/2010 onward. Possible long oil services to partly to blame. Disiel blow by watering down oil viscosity. To check timing chain (at back of motor). Step 1) remove engine ....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deeveus 81 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 Warning for all you M57 owners and N57, mates X5 M57 twin turbs just snapped the timing chain and totally lunched the motor valves ect $12k. Google that and it's not uncommon. Fault supposed to be corrected 10/2010 onward. Possible long oil services to partly to blame. Disiel blow by watering down oil viscosity. To check timing chain (at back of motor). Step 1) remove engine ....... Cough, it would be cheaper to get a warranty than remove the engine and replace timing chain & other gear while you're in there. In my experience (and I've done well over 150,000kms in a M57TUD30 combined over 3x X5 diesels) they've been very reliable. I think on the world stage compared to other engines they are pretty bullet proof. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FRT 144 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Yes agree its a major to change or check, geee my mate sure wishes he had a warranty right now, considering its a NZ new truck not long out of BMW comprehensive maintenance, FSH. After seeing that mess if i owned one i would A ) change the oil more frequently than recomeneded B ) warranty. Edited March 10, 2014 by FRT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allanw 1071 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 If the chain snapped, oil changes are unlikely to have helped... especially if the "fault" was fixed after 10/2010. Chains aren't like they used to be - they used to be a leave 'em alone type thing... they've gotten thinner, smaller and most became single row a looooong time ago. Nowadays, some aren't as reliable as a belt. The M62 V8 tensioners aren't too flash, and the Alloytec Holden motors have had stretching chains, resulting in jumped teeth - usually doesn't lunch anything, they just stop when the timing gets too far off. Was at the Neighbours a while back, discussing that about a 2007 Commodore... with 80K on it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FRT 144 Report post Posted March 10, 2014 Yes apparently "fault fixed" was specification of parts/materials/ tolerances of units built over a 20 month period. So party to blame but combine this with weasled oil caused faster lunching. Hey all just interweb guesses not BMW official media releases. Changing oil often can only be good. And warranty is the key if you can't afford a freaking huge repair bill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2069 Report post Posted March 11, 2014 The fault that is more common on these motors is when they eat the swirl flaps. Will have mine taken out very soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2956 Report post Posted March 11, 2014 Sheee-it FRT was that Neil's truck? He will be mighty pissed. Dan, let me know when you are doing the flaps - I did mine on the 330d a while back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2069 Report post Posted March 11, 2014 Mine has the reinforced ones with the better shafts. So it would really only just be a precaution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffbebe 1559 Report post Posted March 12, 2014 Admins please amend the title of this topic... The accidental misplaced apostrophe sends me into an uncontrollable, hulk-like rage every time I see it. I'd like to think the problem belongs to auto-correct not human error/ignorance. Mainly because I hate auto-correct. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2069 Report post Posted March 12, 2014 Haha okay just for you Julian. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2956 Report post Posted March 12, 2014 Yeah, I found I had those when I took them out!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2069 Report post Posted March 12, 2014 I would love to know what sort of driving causes them to fault and be eaten. And why BMW hasn't really taken every precaution to solve the issue. Rather they have just band-aided it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FRT 144 Report post Posted March 12, 2014 Sheee-it FRT was that Neil's truck? He will be mighty pissed. . Yup, he not happy. Considering he has done probably more than half a million K's in 4 x X5s this one just out of service plan, decided to run it a bit more before swapping up and kaboom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tidy30 38 Report post Posted March 12, 2014 Yup, he not happy. Considering he has done probably more than half a million K's in 4 x X5s this one just out of service plan, decided to run it a bit more before swapping up and kaboom. Sounds like optimum engineering to me! Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmarco 56 Report post Posted March 12, 2014 Sheee-it FRT was that Neil's truck? He will be mighty pissed. Dan, let me know when you are doing the flaps - I did mine on the 330d a while back. Where did uou get the blanking plates Jon? I'm planning to do mine when the warranty expires next year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allanw 1071 Report post Posted March 12, 2014 And why BMW hasn't really taken every precaution to solve the issue. Rather they have just band-aided it. $$$ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palazzo 474 Report post Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Yup, he not happy. Considering he has done probably more than half a million K's in 4 x X5s this one just out of service plan, decided to run it a bit more before swapping up and kaboom.Good support and loyalty from the dealer/manufacturer then. There's a guy who has spent $400k plus on new cars and one faults just out of service, "Sorry, that's your problem".I forgot, on a known problem as well. Edited March 12, 2014 by Palazzo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2069 Report post Posted March 12, 2014 You would think there would be some good will involved huh. If there isn't then I could only presume they just lost themselves a life customer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FRT 144 Report post Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) He definitely made them aware of that in detail and waiting response....First response was Ahh too many K's. It was almost on 200k. Edited March 12, 2014 by FRT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2956 Report post Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) Where did uou get the blanking plates Jon? I'm planning to do mine when the warranty expires next year. I ordered mine from a company in Essex, England called PMW Lts- I found an article in a UK BMW mag and these guys were one of the first and did a lot of the research and development making the parts. Link to their info here: http://pmwltd.co.uk/pages/blanking-pates They were selling them on eBay and as they are small the postage was pretty cheap. Biggest pain was having to take the inlet manifold off to find out what size I had before ordering them, putting it back on while the parts were coming and then taking it off again to fit them. I think there is a way you can tell now without having to do that! Edited March 13, 2014 by E30 325i Rag-Top Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2069 Report post Posted March 13, 2014 Bit different from the guide I was reading using PK Screws, a Dremmel and some cheap sealant. Haha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2069 Report post Posted March 15, 2014 Drove from Wellington to Masterton then on to Auckland today. 10.8l/km by Taupo. 9.7 by Auckland. Towing a heavy trailer with an E30 on it. Stoked with that. Better than my bloody 540 did towing nothing. Really enjoying it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Young Thrash Driver 1020 Report post Posted March 15, 2014 Drove from Wellington to Masterton then on to Auckland today. 10.8l/km by Taupo. 9.7 by Auckland. Towing a heavy trailer with an E30 on it. Stoked with that. Better than my bloody 540 did towing nothing. Really enjoying it. I fully intend on buying one of these in about 5 years time. Power, torque, efficiency and safety, what more could anyone want? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted March 15, 2014 I fully intend on buying one of these in about 5 years time. Power, torque, efficiency and safety, what more could anyone want?Easy,something with more power.;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ethrty-Andy_ 2132 Report post Posted March 15, 2014 Easy,something with more power.;-) The diesels respond very well to being chipped? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites