Herbmiester 923 Report post Posted September 29, 2015 As above a set of the plates that you fit to reinforce the upper rear shock mount. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorburn 121 Report post Posted September 29, 2015 Are you in any rush for the plates? I was going to get some profile cut in the next couple of weeks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbmiester 923 Report post Posted September 29, 2015 I was hoping to do the car sooner rather than later, are you firm on the two weeks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 1061 Report post Posted September 29, 2015 Are you in any rush for the plates? I was going to get some profile cut in the next couple of weeks Got a price? I wouldn't mind getting some for future proofing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael. 2313 Report post Posted September 29, 2015 It's also worth doing the rear trailing arm bush mounting points, common for the welded mounts to get cracks in them, as well as the commonly known to fail, upper and lower subframe mounting points. The longer those are left the worse they get. At least with the shock mounts you can see clearly if they have deteriorated or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorburn 121 Report post Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) The reinforcement plates are currently $50NZ from turners motorsports excluding shipping. It shouldn't be a problem to beat that price. Here is the first quick sketch up I still need to print it in paper to check for clearances and other potential f**kups. I'd planned on making them out of 5mm stainless. If you'd like it to be different I'm happy to make something that'll suit your needsMe and a mate are getting a few things cut out at once to get a better price from the profile cutters. I'll try to get some prices tomorrow and see how far away my mate is from being ready Cheers Michael Id forgotten about making the control arm reinforcement plates. Edited September 29, 2015 by Thorburn 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jibs05 86 Report post Posted September 29, 2015 I think mild steel would work better for those wanting to weld them in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorburn 121 Report post Posted September 29, 2015 I haven't personally seen people weld these in before. But it wouldn't be a problem to have some mild steel ones made if people want them. I only went for stainless to avoid paint or zinc coating etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbmiester 923 Report post Posted September 29, 2015 Looks good post up when they are ready. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tawa 150 Report post Posted September 29, 2015 It's also worth doing the rear trailing arm bush mounting points, common for the welded mounts to get cracks in them, as well as the commonly known to fail, upper and lower subframe mounting points. The longer those are left the worse they get. At least with the shock mounts you can see clearly if they have deteriorated or not. This is a welding job though? or is there a bolt in option? The reinforcement plates are currently $50NZ from turners motorsports excluding shipping. It shouldn't be a problem to beat that price. Here is the first quick sketch up I still need to print it in paper to check for clearances and other potential f**kups. I'd planned on making them out of 5mm stainless. If you'd like it to be different I'm happy to make something that'll suit your needs Me and a mate are getting a few things cut out at once to get a better price from the profile cutters. I'll try to get some prices tomorrow and see how far away my mate is from being ready Cheers Michael Id forgotten about making the control arm reinforcement plates. Put me down for a set! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorburn 121 Report post Posted September 29, 2015 Then trailing arm reinforcement are a weld in job Will do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael. 2313 Report post Posted September 29, 2015 Yeah weld in for sure. I'd be expecting to find cracks on the upper portion of the mounting points for the subframes in all moderate to high km E36s. You can't see these parts unless you get a hole saw and cut the top skin from inside the car. Removing the seats and boot carpet is required. The only tricky part is to find the exact spots of where to drill with the hole saw. I achieved this by drilling through from under the car with the subframe / stud bolts already removed. I needed a special 250mm+ drill bit for the length. Heres mine after I had a mate weld up the cracks / splits found on all these points, only one was intact, 3 had split from the sheet metal completely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) How much are the Z3 ones (universal fit) direct from BMW NZ? Possibly in stock too. Edited September 30, 2015 by M3AN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tawa 150 Report post Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Cheers, not really sure what I'm looking at in that picture Michael, mines under 100k still so hopefully not cracked. Is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t2VcjLkly4 a job to do to prevent the cracking/requirement to weld around the bungs? Edited September 30, 2015 by tawatech 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael. 2313 Report post Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Pics I took are from the tops of the points where the subframe bolts screw into the chassis, I removed the first layer of sheet metal to get access to them. To my horror they were completely cracked, and the lower part of the mounts visible from under the car starting to split So obviously the progression of failure is from the top to the bottom, this was a 1993 example 325i with 200kms Ill get some more pics for ya later tonight. Edited September 30, 2015 by Michael. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted September 30, 2015 How much are the Z3 ones (universal fit) direct from BMW NZ? Possibly in stock too. E46 top mount reinforcement plates are identical and you can buy them from a dealer / parts supplier for $34.00 a pair Same, same. Cheers Ron and there you go folks, don't spend more than NZ$34. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted September 30, 2015 a job to do to prevent the cracking/requirement to weld around the bungs? No, you weld a new plate over the top that has holes for the existing bungs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tawa 150 Report post Posted September 30, 2015 No, you weld a new plate over the top that has holes for the existing bungs. Yeh, that's what I mean, you do that so the bungs don't crack off (thus requiring the welding on themselves). And it's the top that's on the bottom like in the vid right Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted September 30, 2015 Yeh, that's what I mean, you do that so the bungs don't crack off (thus requiring the welding on themselves). And it's the top that's on the bottom like in the vid right Didn't watch the (whole) vid. But it's simple - get plates, weld them on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorburn 121 Report post Posted October 1, 2015 E46 top mount reinforcement plates are identical and you can buy them from a dealer / parts supplier for $34.00 a pair Which dealer? If they're cheap enough there's no reason to make them I'd tried the local dealer today and they were more than $34 each. During the call I checked pelican parts and found them for $32+ shipping for a pair Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorburn 121 Report post Posted October 2, 2015 team mc $55 each +gst ex GermanyCoombes $51.18 each +gstJerry Clayton $54 each +gst ex GermanyIf I can make them up for $30 a pair are people still interested? They'll should be ready to go late next week/ early the week after Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbmiester 923 Report post Posted October 2, 2015 Yes I will take a set for that money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted October 2, 2015 I don't need them (already have them) but $30 a pair is good. They're US$12 each (+ shipping) from Schmiedmann (51-71-8-413-359) so, given the exchange rate that would be more than NZ$30. At James' price everybody should get some. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tawa 150 Report post Posted October 2, 2015 I'll also take a set for that money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 117 Report post Posted October 2, 2015 I'll put myself down for a set. Would be keen for two sets of the trailing arm reinforcements if you were to make any Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites