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Evening everyone,

I have had a couple of messages sent to me, one through the e28 forum and the other through Instagram. Two different parties, located in Netherlands and U.K. asking about the M535i that I own and if it's for sale. The car made it onto the e28 calendar and I have some pics of it on my IG 'rohandam' but I have not advertised it for sale. Now, for sh!ts and giggles I replied depends on the offer made. I got one offer for 8000 euros excluding shipping. Interesting.

The M535i is nowhere near as a collectible as an E30 M3 or an E28 M5 but the M535i are quite popular overseas. But why would you want a car that's on the other side of the world?

Sometimes things can be too good to be true. So I am curious, do you guys get random people sending you these messages? Or, have you actually sold a car to an overseas buyer and if you don't mind providing details of the process involved, for future reference.

Regards.

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Evening everyone,

I have had a couple of messages sent to me, one through the e28 forum and the other through Instagram. Two different parties, located in Netherlands and U.K. asking about the M535i that I own and if it's for sale. The car made it onto the e28 calendar and I have some pics of it on my IG 'rohandam' but I have not advertised it for sale. Now, for sh!ts and giggles I replied depends on the offer made. I got one offer for 8000 euros excluding shipping. Interesting.

The M535i is nowhere near as a collectible as an E30 M3 or an E28 M5 but the M535i are quite popular overseas. But why would you want a car that's on the other side of the world?

Sometimes things can be too good to be true. So I am curious, do you guys get random people sending you these messages? Or, have you actually sold a car to an overseas buyer and if you don't mind providing details of the process involved, for future reference.

Regards.

Ask for a telephone number. If it is genuine then it is no big deal to send it.

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do a google on 'trademe used car sale scam' or look at this link as your starter for ten...

I was approached when selling my maxima, they weren't too clever ultimately. The story was he was working on a ship, buying car for his son, liked the look and could see I was very honest, was happy to buy sight unseen and ship to england. Every time I asked a question to qualify, their answer involved a compliment or reference to my trustworthiness. I asked which port he worked out of, and name of vessel. They wanted to communicate via email, and lo and behold... gmail messenger, they really took off with the pressure, though it was clear they were having muliple conversations at once and forgot which name they'd used with me. Then we ended up on voice calls. They were funny.

I decided to turn the tables, and said yes, I would sell to them. I was very concerned they were buying sight unseen, and the only way I'd feel really comfortable is by obtaining a PPI. I'd be happy to arrange; AA (cheaper as I was a member), VTNZ, Car Inspection Services... provided prices... and when they'd selected which PPI and paid me via PayPal, I'd arrange the PPI and provide them with the report same day. If they were satisfied the car was good, I'd then proceed with freight arrangements. I was scamming the scammers, though I think they knew I'd twigged. Suddenly the comms dried up; they were working some other mark. They didn't even bother with the pretence of "oh, I've changed my mind, I don't like the colour".

Key thing is, don't tell them you know they're scammers, otherwise the'll learn to change email address etc, and could be harder to spot for other unsuspecting punters.

The scam works on you paying freight deposit, which they'll pay you back for in their bankers draft - which of course never happens.

Just remember: if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

You could have a genuine offer, though if it is, you'll have to spend a lot of time qualifying it.

cheers

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A Maxima for sale, some time ago...

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they are sort after up that way

most of there ones have rusted away.

nth euro guys like to turbo them

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If he asks you to pay for anything before he's paid you, then it's likely a scam.

I think the main thing is to make sure you have the money in the bank before you do anything, never trust them to pay later.

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Thanks for the replies everyone. He's asked for pics and his IG account has some random car pics including a couple of new BMWs. It's too much effort especially considering I am not selling the car. But was curious as to how deep the rabbit hole went.

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my friend got an email for his car that was listed on trademe. Basically long story short, they said he needed $2000 to "unlock the funds" in his account to pay the $20k for my friends car. So my friend replied that he spoke with his bank manager and that he needs $200 to unlock the $2000! never heard back after that... lol

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my friend got an email for his car that was listed on trademe. Basically long story short, they said he needed $2000 to "unlock the funds" in his account to pay the $20k for my friends car. So my friend replied that he spoke with his bank manager and that he needs $200 to unlock the $2000! never heard back after that... lol

LOL that's the best thing to do, try to scam them back. If you do a good enough job convincing them that you're falling for it, you might actually score.

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I had a similar contact from a scammer, when I was selling a 2002 Touring, he was working on a boat, wanted the car for his son, bla bla

Contacted Trademe & they explained, that because I had put my contact number in the text of the advert, everybody could see it, only Tardeme members, can see you profile

Regards

Barry

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of topic slightly, but still applicable

we have just sent 2 e30 manual conversions to someone in new caledonia after he hit buy now on one of our trademe auctions

at first we thought ( and got advised by both the bank and trademe) that it was a scam so didn't carry on with the process

however after not responding to him he sent a email with links to his buisness and pictures of some of his cars. we advised him of the information we had been sent and told him we thought he was a scam.... he was highly offended by this. we made contact by phone and spoke to him directly. we opened a separate bank account that wasnt connected to anything we had already existing just to be safe.

the money has shown and the conversions are packaged ready to be sent

i guess if you can do enough digging and information collecting to make a call on whether to go through with it or not, also if you speak to your bank they have processes that you can follow to make sure everything is as it is ment to be

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