Driftit 2078 Report post Posted April 23, 2019 Does anyone know why nearly all the Jap imported E9X BMW's have the cloth seats? The dealers like to call this the "Motorsport" interior. The only exposure to the E9X series I have are the US models. Which are nearly always leather. I don't think I have ever seen a cloth interior here on a year 2000+ BMW other than the ZHP alcantara E46. I look at the interiors on cars with 50,000kms and they already look worn and dirty. Is this a problem with them? I actually wondered if all the E9X's flooding into NZ at the moment are all ex rentals. Many have around the same KM's and spec. Example Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM WORLD 1283 Report post Posted April 23, 2019 japs , prefer comfort velour seats over leather msport refers to the sport front seats which have more side bolsters and adjustabe pad under your knees Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted April 23, 2019 Standard fabric (ugh..) standard leather (non msport sedans) msport alcantara/fabric (most common for E90/E91 msport sedans in NZ) sports leather (common on the Msport E92 coupes in NZ) you can easily tell by the under thigh part that can be pulled out further with a little tab and by the more padded side bolsters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
balancerider 758 Report post Posted April 23, 2019 Another reason for spec'ing the cheaper alcantara instead of leather is because the (F3x at least) japanese cars often have other expensive spec choices as standard (xenon lights, frequently adaptive cruise, big screen nav) so presumably some measure of cost saving involved. I have read that in general the japanese don't like leather seats, to the point where the JDM limo's (e.g Toyota Crown) come with wool or velour interior instead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2956 Report post Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, BM WORLD said: msport refers to the sport front seats which have more side bolsters and adjustabe pad under your knees Not really the case, the sport front seats (option 481) are available on non-sport cars. This alcantara / cloth combination upholstery is ONLY available in cars with 337 M-Sport package (or proper M-Sport cars) and is the factory standard upholstery for M-Sport cars, which is why it is called the Motorsport upholstery in Japan. NZ New cars are generally up-specced to leather as standard, and the Motorsport versions are accordingly upspecced to the leather as well over the factory standard version shown. It's a shame there isn't often an equivalent leather and alcantara version as that would be quite nice imho. As for them being ex-rental, they are probably over specced for that market tbh. They will all come through at roughly the same age / kms, due to the stricter equivalent of the WoF test that comes in after a certain age of the vehicle, it is hard to pass and is quite often the trigger for cars to be sold and export out of Japan as they are worth so little in their market. Lots of cars for Japan are "built to stock" rather than to individual customer requirements so they would order some large batches of cars with the same spec level (ie chosen options) and only different paint colours and or interior colours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2956 Report post Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Driftit said: I don't think I have ever seen a cloth interior here on a year 2000+ BMW other than the ZHP alcantara E46. I look at the interiors on cars with 50,000kms and they already look worn and dirty. Is this a problem with them? Quite a lot of the Uk M-Sport cars also have the cloth / alcantara - quite a few E46s on TardMe have that version of the interior as well. It is a little bit harder to keep in good condition than a leather material - particularly on the side bolsters which are in the alcantara (trade name for synthetic suede material) and do get a bit of a shiny worn look to them that needs some careful cleaning to get it looking good again, and it does tend to wear through eventually. Not really a fault as such, just needs a bit more care and attention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM WORLD 1283 Report post Posted April 23, 2019 then theres car like mine ,. nz new , non msport package but fitted with msport leather seats . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2078 Report post Posted April 23, 2019 Ah cheers for that. I shall stop calling it poverty cloth. I'm not sold on it though. It makes sense now that there are so many similar cars. I thought they would have a bit more freedom with the spec sheet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2425 Report post Posted April 23, 2019 Love the half alcantara "cloth" trim on the motorsport seats. BMW has been using it since at least E46/E39 and I much prefer it to the leather. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1662 Report post Posted April 23, 2019 Not so much BMW's but ive been exposed too far many rank cars with fabric seats, i dont even want to know what they would of absorbed over the years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GorGasm 563 Report post Posted April 23, 2019 Strange, almost every e9x I have seen is leather. Hardly seen any cloth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2078 Report post Posted April 23, 2019 5 hours ago, GorGasm said: Strange, almost every e9x I have seen is leather. Hardly seen any cloth. Have a look on TM now. Nearly all the Motorsports are cloth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GorGasm 563 Report post Posted April 23, 2019 What model, all the 335s seem to be leather? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted April 23, 2019 ^almost all 335i coupes are leather. almost all other msport E9x are the alcantara fabric sports seats, 320i/325i almost all diesels are non msport hence non sports seats. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2078 Report post Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) On 4/23/2019 at 3:31 PM, GorGasm said: What model, all the 335s seem to be leather? Oh should have said. Not looking at 335's. No interest in them until the F series. So just the 330's and 325's. Edited April 24, 2019 by Driftit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NakiTouring 54 Report post Posted April 25, 2019 My 335i e91 M-sport is leather, heated in the front. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites