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Potential 1989 B11 Alpina

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Yes, as mentioned in another thread, I have potentially scored a 1989 B11 Alpina, or it may turn out to be a 1989 735iL badges and stickers special....... yet to confirm either way, but given the purchase price, it's a bargain given the straightness, originality and low k's.

Brief history as I know it at the moment, there will be more info and pics when I get time.

Guy I bought it off imported it from Japan himself. I've got the paperwork here from that, so I'll be the second NZ owner. K's are around 87k 88k. He bought it over when it had about 42k or 43k I think.

Allegedly ex Japanese PMs car, and also allegedly armour plated. Matching numbers and nearly everything complete. Reg is on hold, been parked up for a year as he used this car to take his mother on long trips, she passed away about a year ago and it's been parked up since.

Exterior needs a little work. Clear coat fade on the roof, and rear spoiler leaks a little water into the boot, no major damage there yet but want to get that sorted first.

Interior is nearly immaculate, a couple of tiny little details to sort. However it has an issue at the moment where smoke comes from under the dash when the battery is connected, so have to pull the dash and sort that.

Check engine light is also on, I'm guessing this is being caused by the dash problem, but that shouldn't be hard to sort out.

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Looks like a good solid car, but im sorry to say it looks like its just had the full JDM Alpina badge/sticker set chucked at it, but no actual Alpina parts. Its missing all the interior and exterior parts for the B11.

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check the ecu numbers and stickers 

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2 hours ago, KwS said:

Looks like a good solid car, but im sorry to say it looks like its just had the full JDM Alpina badge/sticker set chucked at it, but no actual Alpina parts. Its missing all the interior and exterior parts for the B11.

Apart from the wheels (as mentioned by E30 3251i Rag-Top), everything else inside and out appears to be the same as most other B11 images I've seen online. Would you care to elaborate on what it's missing?

1 hour ago, BM WORLD said:

check the ecu numbers and stickers 

I didn't even think of that, will check later today (if we get a break in the weather). Thanks for the tip Brent 

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Should have an alpina embossed cluster, seats with Alpina stripes, lower front airdam, Alpina airbox top. Probably more but I'm on my phone atm. 

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From a comment at that ^ link:

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Luckily Alpina did verify that #178 is the real deal, engine S/N and Chassis S/N. They will do that as a courtesy if you email their archives department.

Maybe you can save $150 - are you in touch with their "archives" department?

 

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They all have a different "By MOMO" steering wheel too. Either way, its a cool car, whether its a real Alpina or not. It would be even cooler if it can be confirmed as a B11.

https://www.classiccar-auctions.com/bmw-alpina-b11-3-5-1989-2/

https://www.bmwblog.com/2016/09/30/rare-manual-1988-bmw-alpina-b11-3-5-7-series-grabs-seattle/

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11 hours ago, BM WORLD said:

check the ecu numbers and stickers 

Pulled it and had a look, it's been played with. Can't tell if it's been swapped or just pulled out a few times but definitely evidence of it being tampered with, so may have had a standard ECU fitted at some stage.

5 hours ago, KwS said:

Should have an alpina embossed cluster, seats with Alpina stripes, lower front airdam, Alpina airbox top. Probably more but I'm on my phone atm. 

Yeah have noticed it seems to be missing a few things, judging from photos online though there seem to be a lot of genuine ones that are also missing a lot of them too, not sure why though.

3 hours ago, str8_6 said:

This article might help you determine if it’s authentic or not. 

https://germancarsforsaleblog.com/tuner-tuesday-1990-alpina-b11-3-5-2/

regardless, e32 is always a favorite. Shame the Alpina wheels are missing. 

Good article to read, much appreciated for the info thanks 😊.

1 hour ago, M3AN said:

From a comment at that ^ link:

Maybe you can save $150 - are you in touch with their "archives" department?

 

Yes got in touch with them this afternoon, emailed photos and details off so now patiently waiting to hear back 🤔

1 hour ago, KwS said:

They all have a different "By MOMO" steering wheel too. Either way, its a cool car, whether its a real Alpina or not. It would be even cooler if it can be confirmed as a B11.

https://www.classiccar-auctions.com/bmw-alpina-b11-3-5-1989-2/

https://www.bmwblog.com/2016/09/30/rare-manual-1988-bmw-alpina-b11-3-5-7-series-grabs-seattle/

Yeah I hear you on that one, and will apologise if my reply earlier today sounded a bit defensive - got swamped with people telling me it's a fake with no real info other than "it's missing this bit here or there", and I guess was more just wanting time to research it myself fully.

Looking at the Alpina Archives on this page there were a few that went to Japan, in black, with the gold trim and cloth seats. Also, going through the photos of the actual cars, it seems like boot spoilers, pinstriping, interior trim etc. was all customisable, as most have subtle differences - how much of that is previous owners changing (or replacing items with anything local/cheap) things and how much was ordered that way, no one can say. So will wait and see what the archives says first, and go from there.

Either way, it is a cool car. Very tidy inside and not bad on the outside. If it is just a riced up special, no harm done given what I paid for it - and, if that is the case and it's a stock standard 735iL, the badges will most likely come off and it'll become just a nice weekend cruiser. Given it's condition and extremely low k's, either way I think I got a decent bargain for the price of it.

You don't come across these every day in this condition - not even the ashtrays or the lighter look like they have ever been used.

So this project log may become more active, if it isn't what it was sold as. Get it running, exhaust, decent wheels, tints..... nice Mafia ghetto style car to cruise good old Invers in 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

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3 minutes ago, Mad_Max said:

So this project log may become more active, if it isn't what it was sold as. Get it running, exhaust, decent wheels, tints..... nice Mafia ghetto style car to cruise good old Invers in 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Looking forward to seeing this one in person. 

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1 minute ago, Drea//Mer said:

Looking forward to seeing this one in person. 

You know how to get ahold of me, swing past one night if you want. Just make sure I'm home first 😀

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I like it and tbh, unless you're hoping for a profit it probably doesn't matter if it's fake or not. It looks cool.

I'd be more interested in the armour to be honest, how thick is the glass? Because there's not point in putting armour on a car without reinforcing the glass also.

 

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Get it weighed. Looked up the specs for a previous gen armoured 7er a couple of days ago, they weigh something in the region of 3500kg so a run over some scales should be a dead giveaway.

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13 minutes ago, M3AN said:

I like it and tbh, unless you're hoping for a profit it probably doesn't matter if it's fake or not. It looks cool.

I'd be more interested in the armour to be honest, how thick is the glass? Because there's not point in putting armour on a car without reinforcing the glass also.

 

Yeah same, Can't say I ever would've gone looking for one of these, but being around it up close, it's definitely different. I'm not looking to flick it off, especially not if it's the real deal, so it'll be a weekend cruiser regardless of what happens.

Not sure how thick the glass is, it doesn't appear to be any thicker than normal - which, as you've said, would make it pointless hahaha.

3 minutes ago, Young Thrash Driver said:

Get it weighed. Looked up the specs for a previous gen armoured 7er a couple of days ago, they weigh something in the region of 3500kg so a run over some scales should be a dead giveaway.

Yeah will do at some stage. I know it was pushing the Landcruiser around while being towed - and that's a mid 1980's 70 Series 5 door wagon - so either way, it's no lightweight.

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