MoJoJoe 46 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) My last car had a bit high miles like now sits around 250K on the engine, never really had any issues. Today I came across a 328i with high milage around 300K's but seems it was well maintained. I like it because its NZ New and had only 2 owners I think. Its also got a sunroof (So I can eject myself incase of...errrr something bad like slipping into a ditch. The Exterior and Interior condtion seems to be quite good. So anyway I was wondering. is 300K considered bad/dead on M52 motors? Do ours suffer from the US Nikasi block issues (I guess that was due to the higher sulfer rate on US cars)? Guy is wanting just 3K for it, is that something to be cautious about? Edited January 24, 2014 by MoJoJoe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffbebe 1559 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 Here we go again. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoJoJoe 46 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) I dont see what the problem is. Is there like a restriction for starting a new thread to discuss something or do we have to derail it as well? I want some information on bmw engines with higher miles, more so the ones found on 3 series cars, eg. the m52. I am sure if it were to die in the future I could swap it out with something better(US or Euro Spec m3 motor) with the savings I make, hopefully someone with enough knowledge will come across and enlighten me and give me some honest input, I am just asking for opinions, Edited January 22, 2014 by MoJoJoe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 I dont see what the problem is. Is there like a restriction for starting a new thread to discuss something or do we have to derail it as well? I want some information on bmw engines with higher miles, more so the ones found on 3 series cars, eg. the m52. I am sure I could swap it out with something better with the savings I make, hopefully someone with enough knowledge will come across and enlighten me and give me some honest input, I am just asking for opinions, If it has been looked after the engine itself is mot yhe issue they are made to be rebuilt,or swapped.its the (auto) gearbox that I reckon is the thong. To be worried about,and the rest of the car Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoJoJoe 46 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 If it has been looked after the engine itself is mot yhe issue they are made to be rebuilt,or swapped.its the (auto) gearbox that I reckon is the thong. To be worried about,and the rest of the car Its the euro gearbox since the car is NZ new and the guy says the gear shifts are good, the condtions seems to be good, Other then rust and maybe the suspension is ther anything else I should be looking for in a car that has gone the "distance". engine vanos? hydrolic lifters etc? any tips would be appreciated. thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allanw 1071 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 People worry about engines so much. It's the rest of the car you need to worry about! Any decent car will do many, many hundreds of thousands of kms if they're looked after. I've had several cars with well over 300kms on, and no issues with any of them. I actually had more issues with a 2002 Corolla between new and 150K than I had on the cars with 300K+ (although one Legacy did lunch a trans at about 300K). One of them ended up at a business on Tutukaka Coast, and it had done 420K when I last saw it - had a clutch and an exhaust manifold since they brought it. The problem is: Kiwi's are sh*t at looking after cars - as they get older, they start to be cheap with them, and they become wrecks pretty quick after that. They seem to think it's cheaper to buy another car and the old one isn't spending money on - if it was a decent car, that very rarely the case! If you find one that's been properly looked after, the kms are somewhat immaterial. It may have already had a bunch of stuff done, so may be better than a car with 100K on it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahmedsinc 414 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 The E36s were never designed to be a long lived car. If you want something that will still happily run after 550000km might I suggest a Falcodore. Perhaps take some local cars out for a drive and see what you think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Matt_ 42 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 I usually ask more questions when looking at cars with 200k or less, purely because things that haven't been replaced in the early days will likely give out. A car that has reached 300k and is in that condition is a pretty good sign, especially an e36. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoJoJoe 46 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) thanks guys, I appreciate the responses, I think I'm gonna see if I can get somebody to have a look at it and take it for a ride, and then if everything checks out I'll take it. I'll let you guys know how things go. If there's any pointers you think has been left out that I should fill in the person looking then let me know. so far seems good. "oil change, 60000km spark plugs. air filter, rocker cover gasket replacement. Yes the A/C works, The auto gearbox works very well with excellent sports mode and snow mode. Still has plenty of power. I have driven it to auck many times & always a pleasure" Quite sad but agree with you there @Allan, very well put. hope this is an exception, inside sure looks like it. Edited January 22, 2014 by MoJoJoe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil-540i 166 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 At 300k's, any E36 that reaches that, is road legal & still moves under it's own steam probably deserves to be displayed in a glass-case............ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoJoJoe 46 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) At 300k's, any E36 that reaches that, is road legal & still moves under it's own steam probably deserves to be displayed in a glass-case............ if I keep it for 2 more years it will be officially an antic. wanna trade? I have seen some bmws with under 150K on trademe that had a number of issues with the engine due to poor maintenence or driver habbits as some members here told me earlier on my other topic. i dont know though, there are some good points in this thread, car looks very well taken care of, might have some actual engine work or rebuild done by the previous owner since tis got the whole interior reuoholistered professionally. usually a 1 ~ 1.5K Job when I was quoted to do mine. could be a gem, could be a leamon, wont know untill I get to talk a bit more with the owner, and maybe if somebody took it for a drive. lets see.. Edited January 22, 2014 by MoJoJoe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingkarl 136 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 cmon man. buy something already. you are buying a 2nd hand bmw.... be prepared to spend some $$$ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nath 134 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 talk a bit more with the owner, and maybe if somebody took it for a drive. lets see.. How many conversations do you intend on having? Line some cars up to test drive over a day or two, come down here, and drive back home with one of them. Cars this old come with condition ranging the full spectrum from totally sh*t and dying in every way, to near perfect. Not model specific, not anything specific just the varying lives of a bunch of cars 20 years old. Aside from the common problem of a JATCO auto, you're on a wild goose chase with the 101 questions. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoJoJoe 46 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) How many conversations do you intend on having? Line some cars up to test drive over a day or two, come down here, and drive back home with one of them. Cars this old come with condition ranging the full spectrum from totally sh*t and dying in every way, to near perfect. Not model specific, not anything specific just the varying lives of a bunch of cars 20 years old. Aside from the common problem of a JATCO auto, you're on a wild goose chase with the 101 questions. I am just looking at this one on the side, I came across this, I was just curious about the high mileage and stuff. the car looks very tidy and well looked after, almost as much as that other blue one. I picked 3 cars. A Red one which I dropped earlier since it had too many problems and the interior was falling apart, A Blue one also in waikato which is very very good overall with 140K on the odo (somebody tested it) , a bit pricy but worth it, still working on it with the seller, hard to find somebody willing to tag along at the moment. unfortunately I live quite far from both cars, the waikato car is around 600Km trip to and back and the Taranaki, NP car is around 1200KM / 14hr trip to and back. so you can see coming down in and out every time to check a car is not a very viable option. but i am trying to see if I can find someone in Np to look at it for me and if things check out then there is a possibility of me having it shipped or driven half the way or something. We'll see.. Edited January 22, 2014 by MoJoJoe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
///MPROVD 131 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 At 300k's, any E36 that reaches that, is road legal & still moves under it's own steam probably deserves to be displayed in a glass-case............ my 328 has done 345,000 and the engine has done 380,000 and ive never had a better car everything is sound no rust not crash damaged etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Young Thrash Driver 1020 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 My last E36 was a 92 325 and had done over 300km when I bought it, engine was mint as, it was manual and gearbox was as solid as too. My E30 has done 350km and the engine and box are great too. Both came from people who had looked after them, so I think the lesson is- look after your car, and it will look after you. I'm pretty sure somebody on here has that as their signature... Dad uses a Crayola to commute with, has well over 550km on the clock, but it's only good features are reliability and fuel consumption. If I end up in hell when I'm dead, I fully expect to be handed a Corolla and told, "Go for a drive." 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjm 3258 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 Dad uses a Crayola to commute with, has well over 550km on the clock, but it's only good features are reliability and fuel consumption. If I end up in hell when I'm dead, I fully expect to be handed a Corolla and told, "Go for a drive." Before buying the 320d I found myself considering Toyota Corolla diesels, or even Nissan's AD. Practical, frugal, reliable, utilitarian... And as boring as. Pure purgatory. In the UK, a car isn't really considered high mileage 'til it has topped 200000 miles. 320000km. And there are many with a lot more than that on them. Yup - look after your car, and it will (normally) look after you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twisted 45 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 Cripes Mojo. I have a formula for you. If you follow it, you wont go wrong. 1. Find BMW that you like 2. Verify that it has sunroof ( i wont buy a BMW without one...). 3. GET A PPI 4. Finalise transaction. 5. Profit. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BreakMyWindow 1874 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 So the consensus here is that the M52 is a solid engine and will go the distance. The problem with this example is that it probably doesn't have an LSD which I suspect will be the 'reason' why the OP does not buy this car. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahmedsinc 414 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) So the consensus here is that the M52 is a solid engine and will go the distance. The problem with this example is that it probably doesn't have an LSD which I suspect will be the 'reason' why the OP does not buy this car. Very few do, as you well know. Having said that, with a little patience and some good timing they can be had for reasonable sums, so long as you don't mind getting your hands dirty When I made the comment that the E36 (only model I've owned so the only one I'll make comment on) was not designed with longevity in mind I wasn't referring to the engines. More the well documented issues with trims parting company with the surfaces they were mounted to, electric gadgets failing just from age (understandable) and other niggly bits that are more annoying than critical failures. Might I moot the reason the E30s are such a great car is they frequently didn't have the bits that their more modern counterparts are know to fail on? Personally I'd rather own an E36 over an E46 just because they're less complicated than their successors. Mechanically speaking, my 325i ( and a mates NZ new manual 318is) have proven themselves to be near unkillable. Having said that, nearly everything 12v related (barring the headlights, starter & alternator) have pooped themselves at some point of ownership. But, they are 20+ year old cars now, these things are to be expected Edit: High mileage isn't scary. Poor service records are! Edited January 22, 2014 by Ahmedsinc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMRBOI 8 Report post Posted January 22, 2014 My old 325i had done 360,000+. headgasket went on it around a year after i purchased it (viscous coupler went) causing this. You will spend money on any second hand car, period. Does it come with service history? Mine came with 30K worth of receipts and was the only real reason i went through with the purchase. Offer them low, spend 1k on maintenance (cooling system overhaul) and i reckon you will be fine. If the engine worries you, get it checked out for compression, leaks etc. Ask yourself, if you get it for 2.5k and spend 1k on maintenance can you justify the buy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingkarl 136 Report post Posted January 23, 2014 P.S. E30's are over-rated an average 90's Corolla is a better drive than an average E30 320 I think you just kicked off another 30 pager.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1662 Report post Posted January 23, 2014 Nothing against the E36 but i wouldn't call it a solid design, if it were they wouldn't of used such sh*t house door trims among other things. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Young Thrash Driver 1020 Report post Posted January 23, 2014 P.S. E30's are over-rated an average 90's Corolla is a better drive than an average E30 320 Yeah, nah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1043 Report post Posted January 23, 2014 Drove an e36 .. fell asleep .. true story Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
