qube 3570 Report post Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, HalfJobHarry said: M The Cats and post cat sensors all all about emissions compliance and serve no function beyond that so no surprise its running okay. The pre-cat sensors do all the real work. So I've seen two scenarios here, bad cats (rare)...bad sensors (more common)...i've had multiple O2 sensors fail close together (often due to vibration). If you're otherwise happy with your data , fuel trims etc...then consider just programming/flashing out these fault code as there is nothing to gain by chasing this problem down (unless you want to be sure you're not contributing to NOx pollution!) Thanks for the info. At this stage I am more interested in the other code 30C3. not much info I can find about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HalfJobHarry 106 Report post Posted May 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, qube said: Thanks for the info. At this stage I am more interested in the other code 30C3. not much info I can find about it. I'd bet on a bad oil pressure sensor. Replace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted May 17, 2021 Replaced it with new. Also tried another known good used one just incase the new one was dud but didnt fix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HalfJobHarry 106 Report post Posted May 18, 2021 4 hours ago, qube said: Replaced it with new. Also tried another known good used one just incase the new one was dud but didnt fix Ah....okay that's a bit more of a worry then. I've used this guys resources before with great success so at least for the stuff I used he knows what he's talking about, takes a look at some of these codes in depth here. https://bimmerprofs.com/oil-pressure-n-series-engines/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted May 18, 2021 Could it be this? Oil pressure control actuator (pn 11417584991) According to Realoem it might be a blank plug on the N52 but it might actually have it due to design changes? https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/oil-pressure-on-n52.955944/page-6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HalfJobHarry 106 Report post Posted May 18, 2021 2 hours ago, qube said: Could it be this? Oil pressure control actuator (pn 11417584991) According to Realoem it might be a blank plug on the N52 but it might actually have it due to design changes? https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/oil-pressure-on-n52.955944/page-6 Yes it could be all of those things. Two avenues for diagnostics here (disclaimer...I trained as a youth as an auto diagnostician ...but never worked professionally, but following logical fault trees etc is my strength!). A: The sensor is reading wrong and causing codes. Verify the output with something like INPA and ensure the pressure reading is feasible. As the article I linked mentioned..sometimes the pressure reading from the software is a factor off. This would be an Instrumentation fault. B: You have an actual oil pressure problem. Are you hearing any noises, rattles, is the warning tripping only at certain times? low revs, cold starts etc etc? There are a number of issues from the actuator (yes you have to be very specific to check against your VIN to be sure and even then it's not 100% ... my 120i being Japanese spec has a unusual ECU and engine variant that is not reflected in RealOEM. Also from the thread you posted, beware of any kind of metallic 'bag of spanners' 'chain saw' type rattling immediately on startup that quickly quiets down...this is the timing chain. Although I am not aware of the N52 specifically having any timing chain issues (like bad tensioners from the factory etc)...but there is a fair amount of talk about chain guides wearing out / getting chewed up out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) . Edited August 24, 2021 by qube Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted May 18, 2021 If there was an actual oil pressure problem it would have turned into a mechanical problem by now. Diagnosing the problem is obviously still important but it shouldn't prevent you driving the car which is a good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackie 510 Report post Posted May 19, 2021 Have you checked the oil pressure with an actual mechanical guage? That would be my first step. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted May 19, 2021 59 minutes ago, Blackie said: Have you checked the oil pressure with an actual mechanical guage? That would be my first step. I have not because 1. I dont have the equipment but also because 2. its not easy to find info on what the "right" pressure should be. Might need to get some assistance with this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2153 Report post Posted May 19, 2021 N52s have a variable displacement pump, so oil pressure changes depending on what its doing 😕 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted May 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Jacko said: N52s have a variable displacement pump, so oil pressure changes depending on what its doing 😕 Yep, and from my research, if I remove the oil pressure sensor to connect the gauge in it's place, then the readings wont be accurate so Ive seen someone say they built a Y adapter to plug both the sensor and the gauge in at the same time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackie 510 Report post Posted May 19, 2021 You can still check for low pressure and should as a first step. Pumps can fail easily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HalfJobHarry 106 Report post Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, qube said: Yep, and from my research, if I remove the oil pressure sensor to connect the gauge in it's place, then the readings wont be accurate so Ive seen someone say they built a Y adapter to plug both the sensor and the gauge in at the same time. I would look at the sensor outputs *directly* in INPA or other tool. This will be informative to determine if the sensor is A) reading incorrectly , implausable readings like 0 psi or 1000 psi etc etc b) not reading at all, no value , c) static value . 30 psi when the engine is off for example . My pressure values are examples. It would be very useful to understand the behavior. As has been mentioned, it's unlikely you have a seriously low oil pressure situation at all times or you'd likely have had a catastrophic failure by now. I'm wondering if the sensor is somehow biased and consistently returning a wrong reading. The above checks would tell you that. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brianr70 83 Report post Posted May 23, 2021 130i going fast 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted May 25, 2021 @qube https://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=136077 ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted May 25, 2021 @M3AN Looks good.. i did just make an account for that forum but not sure how to send messages/post. Maybe not enabled. Not sure what happened to my old one but wouldn’t let me log in nor send me a reset Pw email Wonder how much shipping would be.. ahh probably too much hassle trying to deal with overseas private purchase. Haven’t done it before so not too sure about security etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted May 25, 2021 On 5/23/2021 at 4:50 PM, Brianr70 said: 130i going fast this is a good review video 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted May 27, 2021 This one is interesting, still too expensive but probably the highest spec'd one I've ever seen: https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/bmw/listing/3109945580 Sunroof, F/R PDC, BMW Performance Exhaust (educated guess, it's not stock and looks like a BMW back box), Comfort Access, Adjustable Lumbar, Adaptive Xenons, HiFi System (on top of Professional Nav, so extra amp and speakers), CD Changer... it's really only missing Cruise Control I think (which can be retrofitted, I've done it). And a good looking (and proper fitting) spoiler to boot. That would have cost a pretty penny off the lot! I wish there was an engine bay pic, based on the wing and trunk stickers it may have some hidden goodies too: https://www.studie.co.jp/ Maybe I should take a look on the weekend? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leichtbau 525 Report post Posted May 27, 2021 Spied that this morning, and it did pique my curiosity. Though a 6spd is the same price (with pdc!) currently... https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/bmw/130i/listing/3096399403 I have some questions for the 130i thread tomorrow re: the pair of silver 2006 6spds with the same owner... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZ_InFerno 371 Report post Posted May 27, 2021 2 hours ago, M3AN said: This one is interesting, still too expensive but probably the highest spec'd one I've ever seen: https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/bmw/listing/3109945580 Sunroof, F/R PDC, BMW Performance Exhaust (educated guess, it's not stock and looks like a BMW back box), Comfort Access, Adjustable Lumbar, Adaptive Xenons, HiFi System (on top of Professional Nav, so extra amp and speakers), CD Changer... it's really only missing Cruise Control I think (which can be retrofitted, I've done it). And a good looking (and proper fitting) spoiler to boot. That would have cost a pretty penny off the lot! I wish there was an engine bay pic, based on the wing and trunk stickers it may have some hidden goodies too: https://www.studie.co.jp/ Maybe I should take a look on the weekend? I would be seriously considering buying this if it was manual. Nice car Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZ_InFerno 371 Report post Posted May 27, 2021 39 minutes ago, leichtbau said: Spied that this morning, and it did pique my curiosity. Though a 6spd is the same price (with pdc!) currently... https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/bmw/130i/listing/3096399403 I have some questions for the 130i thread tomorrow re: the pair of silver 2006 6spds with the same owner... I used to have 3 of them, they're probably big fans too from the listings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost Chip 188 Report post Posted May 30, 2021 https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-3115213904.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZ_InFerno 371 Report post Posted May 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ghost Chip said: https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-3115213904.htm Sex. What's up with the 120i exhaust tip on it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted May 30, 2021 That rear spoiler is an abomination. And 19's and a 130 are not a happy marriage made. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites