Eagle 1659 Report post Posted January 26, 2014 http://www.turners.co.nz/Cars/Search/BMW/M3/12103127/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nastnas 9 Report post Posted January 27, 2014 SMG Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liyi_92 37 Report post Posted January 27, 2014 Was on TradeMe a while back. He did say there was a problem with it which I think if I remember correctly was something to do with the Vanos. Seems like nobody was interested on TradeMe. Car however does look very good though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MD13 492 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 Never liked that colour... Still if I get time might pop in for a test hoon <cough cough> mean drive :-) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BreakMyWindow 1874 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 I'll leave this here... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m325i 709 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 Never liked that colour... Still if I get time might pop in for a test hoon <cough cough> mean drive :-) Around the their 'test track'? lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camera doctor 25 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 I'll leave this here... Scary sh*t !!! I used to be quite keen on a E46 M3 ....... is this common or has this guy been doing lots of skids ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richard 384 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 never will i buy one of these......... I've just watch all 5 vids. Are E36's the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 1056 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 Am I the only one who actually likes Phoenix Yellow? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richard 384 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 even if you/they trash the sh*t out of them its still a very poor design fault> BMW built it, I'd expect to be able to drop the clutch from the moon all day long and the car to handle it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liyi_92 37 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 Am I the only one who actually likes Phoenix Yellow? I do not exactly love Phoenix Yellow, but if I was to buy an M3 I would not buy it in any other colour... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2421 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 I like it, and i love the kiwi leather trim too. Would totally roll in the one in the OP, but alas no $$$ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahmedsinc 414 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 Lol, wut?! Granted, a 33%ish increase in hp & torque will test any chassis limits, but surely the ///M engineers would have allowed a fair amount of wriggle room? It's not like we're talking about a mass production car here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1659 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 Definitely a design flaw from BMW, they aren't perfect. Wouldn't surprise me if E90's have the same issue in the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haitoman 110 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 All E46 models are susceptible not just the M3. It just doesn't happen to cars driven normally on the road, and as 318, 320 etc are not usually tracked they don't fail as often. A popped spot weld does not usually constitute sub-frame failure to BMW and to be honest there are plenty of other things that fail on any other cars. All of the sub-frame failures you speak of are in reality only on a small percentage of cars ie. I could only count 14 instances of MY2001-2003 failures over the last 3 years on that forum - out of all the USA and UK users on there. Some people just like putting the frighteners out but under normal (and some spirited) driving its not an issue. If it happens to me then I may change my mind but I love my car and rarely hammer it, and anyway it knows it goes to the knackers yard it if it does. To be honest I've never revved it over 6k so it owes me!! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmarco 56 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 I'll leave this here... Holy sh*t - thats scary! Must be like riding a horse in the corners 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1659 Report post Posted January 28, 2014 I know lowering\stiff springs don't do any favours either but if bought any E46 id get it checked regardless of what it was. I know all cars have issues but if you get caught slipping with this design flaw you can be up for a large bill. A guy on another forum here in NZ recently found out his 328i needed the subframe replaced, which he did and had the new one reinforced. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tristan 338 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 Was out at Turners on an unrelated matter today and saw this car. Wow. Looks like a piece of sh*t to put it bluntly. Holes in bumper where splitters should be, engine bay disgusting, bird sh*t all over the back window, lots of scratches, a handful of dents. Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neal 539 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Smg launch control is brutal on the rear end in first as 1/10 of a second shift mode in 1, 2 & 3 on full throttle. Not something a careful car owner would do more than once. No doubt why the sub frame will fail. Similar to side stepping a clutch at 4k for those that use the tractor style interface know as a manual. ;-) Edited January 29, 2014 by Neal 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tristan 338 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 Smg launch control is brutal on the rear end in first as 1/10 of a second shift mode in 1, 2 & 3 on full throttle. Not something a careful car owner would do more than once. No doubt why the sub frame will fail. Similar to side stepping a clutch at 4k for those that use the tractor style interface know as a manual. ;-) Now don't start that, we all know that you only need an automatic manual gearbox if you don't know how to use a real manual gearbox... Last I heard a "manual" needed 3 pedals :D 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m325i 709 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 I would buy an SMG and I would launch it all day, er' day 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2421 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 SMG downshift throttle blip.... *drool* 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1659 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 The benefits of a proper manual still outweigh any other transmission 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffbebe 1559 Report post Posted January 29, 2014 This is like the Playstation v Xbox fanboi debates. Horses for courses. I'd take a manual on the track any day of the week but if I was driving across Europe I'd take an auto. I enjoy driving both - I'm actually really enjoying my auto box at the moment since upgrading the s/w but would also be happy with a manual (if the conversion costs weren't so high!). 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richard 384 Report post Posted January 30, 2014 SMG = silly moveable gadget 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
