e36 M3ish..

[sonic_attack 89]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-775818237.htm

I wouldn't have a clue, Carjam lists it as 3 liter but doesn't supply a VIN. No engine details/pics on TM either.

Edited September 3, 2014 by sonic_attack

[Navin 180]

Seems to be genuine?

http://www.carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=su8523

Hmm would be keen to check this out

Edited September 3, 2014 by Navin

[sonic_attack 89]

I dunno. Carjam calls it a 2990CC M3 and Jimbo the snake oil peddler calls it a 2500CC M3. I suppose the VIN would be helpful.

The bodykit, wheels and interior and wing mirrors look right though doesn't it? Nice colour anyway

[aja540i 1906]

I thought the e36 M3 had red needles on the gauges and a little M badge in the dash? Could be wrong.

[KwS 2425]

i seem to remember a while ago there was an early M3 that someone had taken the engine from for some reason and swapped in a 2.5 (or 2.8) and all associated harness/gauges. It must be this one, becuase yes the cluster is not an M3 cluster (white needles, no M logo, and consumption gauge instead of oil temp) but the rest of the car is M3 sort of spec (hifi audio, full OBC, vaders)

Edited September 3, 2014 by KwS

[BM WORLD 1283]

ah yes I remember that one ,

was a genuine m3 had its engine nicked for a e36 race car that started out as a 325i.

Ernst at baverian motors did the work

and yes m3 should have the M style gauge (no ecno gauge) oil temp instead .

[lord_jagganath 421]

so essentially the chassis must be worth something? surely it isn't identical to a 328i?

[KwS 2425]

such a shame, looks like a REAL good condition body and interior. Love the color too.

[qube 3570]

if it still has all the running gears and stuff of the m3 then it must be better.

[BM WORLD 1283]

so if you can find a s50b30 engine and cluster etc

then you could put it back to a m3

jayden you need this one

[handgrenade 189]

Looks like the brakes are still M3 spec? Hard to tell from those photos ..

[///MPROVD 131]

I know haha bigger brakes reinforced subframe. Does it still have lsd and zf box?

[sonic_attack 89]

Bummer. Would seem a reasonable asking price for what you get over a regular coupe. Quite like that contrast interior too.

[euroriffic 607]

Wasn't the one I was thinking of. Was a blue one with a 2.8 as a s50 replacement was too much at the time.

[_ethrty-Andy_ 2132]

Needs a V8 swap

[KwS 2425]

Needs a V12 swap

FTFY

[lord_jagganath 421]

seems like they have uploaded an engine bay picture. looks strange with the M50 in it.

[KwS 2425]

Probably got a sh*t load of abusive calls and had to prove its an M50

[_ethrty-Andy_ 2132]

How can they legally advertise it as an M3?

Because it IS an M3, and a little thing called let the buyer beware.

not like its the first car to be sold modified, and its not misleading, clearly says its a 2.5L engine etc

[lord_jagganath 421]

I suppose the insurers would be happy to insure the car as a 325i?

[Ahmedsinc 414]

Probably due to the VIN still showing the chassis as an M3.

That's not my interpretation of statutory and common law, can you elaborate on why you're so emphatic?

I guess it's the equivalent of repowering a 328i with a B20, or a 540i with an M60B30. Still an I6 / V8 in a car designed to carry such an engine, but as the new powerplant has fewer CCs and less power it doesn't require certing.

Morally the seller should specify it does not have an S50, but I'm unsure if it's a legal requirement. Bloody should be though!

Wonder if it has any ///M driveline or suspension left at all??

[KwS 2425]

That's not my interpretation of statutory and common law, can you elaborate on why you're so emphatic?

A commodore SS with a rotary in it, is still a commodore SS.

An M3 with a B25 in it, is still an M3.

[nath 134]

^ nup.

By law the 'headline' must represent the product offered for sale.

This is clearly *not* an M3 and can't be offered for sale as one.

It may be registered as an M3 (doubtful) but the registration isn't a valid description for sale since it doesn't accurately describe the goods.

It is an M3, an M3 with a 325i engine which is easily discovered and would presumably be described at first chance. There would be no 'reasonable' situation where a sale agreement was made imagining it still as a more valuable 3L car.

[KwS 2425]

Its an M3, plain and simple. As long as the seller discloses the engine swap to the buyer, there is nothing at all wrong (and presuming its certified for the swap too).

But by your reasoning, if you took the engine out of this car, what would it be then? Cant just call it nothing....

Edited September 5, 2014 by KwS

[Golfboy666GTI 68]

My Father owned this car in the early to mid 2000's, its a real M3. While Dad owned it he had the whole car repainted.