qube 3570 Report post Posted July 12, 2016 http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-1121005956.htm no cert doe.. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E36_Turbo 84 Report post Posted July 12, 2016 Yeah she's a nice ride, i'm just watching....hope you get it man, at least a member will own it ( fingers crossed ) !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zero 1162 Report post Posted July 12, 2016 The lack of cert will effect the value. I wonder why it hasn't been done? Nice seats btw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted July 12, 2016 has a lot of pros but also a lot of cons. pros: coupe, msport, 2.8L, manual, hellrot, m3 seats, supersprint exhaust, lowish ks. cons: originally a 325 auto, no cert, hellrot, unknown history/engine condition. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2421 Report post Posted July 12, 2016 pfft, hellrot is a pro. Great color for an E36. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rubix 434 Report post Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Reid's old car, he sold it for 4k. (with most of those mods) Edited July 12, 2016 by Rubix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted July 12, 2016 pfft, hellrot is a pro. Great color for an E36. i know, thats why i put it in pro, and in con because they like to fade and peel. lol 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tawa 150 Report post Posted July 12, 2016 Looks priced to stay though. Cost of car plus mods never adds up to sell price... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjm 3258 Report post Posted July 12, 2016 Reid's old car, he sold it for 4k. (with most of those mods) That's about where I would pitch it now. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WYZEUP 283 Report post Posted July 12, 2016 why worry about a cert? would you be able to tell the difference by looking at the car if you didnt run it through realoem or vindecode? its clearly got around for a long time without so why worry about it now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjm 3258 Report post Posted July 12, 2016 why worry about a cert? would you be able to tell the difference by looking at the car if you didnt run it through realoem or vindecode? its clearly got around for a long time without so why worry about it now? The only concern I'd have is in the case of an accident. Dunno how the authorities would view an un-certed car in that situation, but I doubt it would congenially! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2421 Report post Posted July 13, 2016 Not to mention your insurer. It also mentions adjustable springs, which should be failed on any warrant without a cert. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnM575 112 Report post Posted July 13, 2016 why worry about a cert? would you be able to tell the difference by looking at the car if you didnt run it through realoem or vindecode? its clearly got around for a long time without so why worry about it now? There's a few good reasons to worry about a cert... Legality; It voids your insurance policy in the case of an accident (I would imagine it would void it in the case of theft too?); and If you do get caught, the potential costs and headaches to get it all certed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted July 13, 2016 for 7.7k or close to it, i would at the very least expect a cert and all things done proper. I still think its a nice car but wouldnt buy it given the current status/price. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zero 1162 Report post Posted July 13, 2016 Maybe it needs some work to get the cert or has failed cert, which is why the owner has not done it. Doesn't make any sense otherwise as no cert affects the price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neal 539 Report post Posted July 13, 2016 Would it need one for engine transplant ? 325i and 328i have same power quoted by the factory when standard. Seats would bolt in. Thinking it would be suspension that may need it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted July 13, 2016 manual conversion definitely needs a cert Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huff3r 347 Report post Posted July 13, 2016 Larger capacity engine also always requires a cert even if same/similar power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted July 14, 2016 I actually think it should be illegal to sell a car without a cert if the car requires one. Unless it's de-registered and therefore illegal to use on the road. Anyway, the only two things I have to say about this car: 1. it looks terrible on 16's 2. does an e46 rear coupe seat fit straight into an e36, side bolsters and all? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjm 3258 Report post Posted July 14, 2016 ... 2. does an e46 rear coupe seat fit straight into an e36, side bolsters and all? Well spotted! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRocketTi 131 Report post Posted July 14, 2016 manual conversion definitely needs a cert Manual conversion doesnt need cert. As taken from LVVTA Threashold tables: Certification is not required so long as: The OE gearbox cross-member has not been heated, cut, or welded; and the OE gearbox cross-member mounting to the OE body or chassis members is unchanged; and no replacement gearbox cross-member is used; and the OE drive-shaft(s) is un-modified; and no substantial modifications have occurred http://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplementary_information/LVVTA_LVV_Cert_Threshold.pdf The engine could get away with saying that its an m52b25 that has had a stroker kit put in and is still making less than 20% more power and get away with it that way. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnM575 112 Report post Posted July 14, 2016 I actually think it should be illegal to sell a car without a cert if the car requires one. Unless it's de-registered and therefore illegal to use on the road. Amen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huff3r 347 Report post Posted July 14, 2016 Stroker kit won't fly, the 25% rule applies essentially to bolt on modifications, not full engine rebuilds. Also, if you read the FAQs then you will see that threshold refers to swapping gearboxes like for like, and a manual conversion according to lvvta always requires a cert. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2421 Report post Posted July 14, 2016 Manual conversion doesnt need cert. As taken from LVVTA Threashold tables: Certification is not required so long as: The OE gearbox cross-member has not been heated, cut, or welded; and the OE gearbox cross-member mounting to the OE body or chassis members is unchanged; and no replacement gearbox cross-member is used; and the OE drive-shaft(s) is un-modified; and no substantial modifications have occurred http://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplementary_information/LVVTA_LVV_Cert_Threshold.pdf The engine could get away with saying that its an m52b25 that has had a stroker kit put in and is still making less than 20% more power and get away with it that way. Good luck doing most manual conversions without changing drive shaft or crossmember... This topic is beaten to death. Just do it properly and cert the damn thing. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites