The temptation is strong with this one..

[qube 3570]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-1121005956.htm

no cert doe..

[E36_Turbo 84]

Yeah she's a nice ride, i'm just watching....hope you get it man, at least a member will own it ( fingers crossed ) !!

[zero 1162]

The lack of cert will effect the value.

I wonder why it hasn't been done?

Nice seats btw.

[qube 3570]

has a lot of pros but also a lot of cons.

pros: coupe, msport, 2.8L, manual, hellrot, m3 seats, supersprint exhaust, lowish ks.

cons: originally a 325 auto, no cert, hellrot, unknown history/engine condition.

[KwS 2425]

pfft, hellrot is a pro. Great color for an E36.

[Rubix 434]

Reid's old car, he sold it for 4k. (with most of those mods)

Edited July 12, 2016 by Rubix

[qube 3570]

pfft, hellrot is a pro. Great color for an E36.

i know, thats why i put it in pro, and in con because they like to fade and peel. lol

[tawa 150]

Looks priced to stay though. Cost of car plus mods never adds up to sell price...

[gjm 3258]

Reid's old car, he sold it for 4k. (with most of those mods)

That's about where I would pitch it now.

[WYZEUP 283]

why worry about a cert? would you be able to tell the difference by looking at the car if you didnt run it through realoem or vindecode? its clearly got around for a long time without so why worry about it now?

[gjm 3258]

why worry about a cert? would you be able to tell the difference by looking at the car if you didnt run it through realoem or vindecode? its clearly got around for a long time without so why worry about it now?

The only concern I'd have is in the case of an accident. Dunno how the authorities would view an un-certed car in that situation, but I doubt it would congenially!

[KwS 2425]

Not to mention your insurer. It also mentions adjustable springs, which should be failed on any warrant without a cert.

[JohnM575 112]

why worry about a cert? would you be able to tell the difference by looking at the car if you didnt run it through realoem or vindecode? its clearly got around for a long time without so why worry about it now?

There's a few good reasons to worry about a cert...

1. Legality;
2. It voids your insurance policy in the case of an accident (I would imagine it would void it in the case of theft too?); and
3. If you do get caught, the potential costs and headaches to get it all certed.

[qube 3570]

for 7.7k or close to it, i would at the very least expect a cert and all things done proper.

I still think its a nice car but wouldnt buy it given the current status/price.

[zero 1162]

Maybe it needs some work to get the cert or has failed cert, which is why the owner has not done it.

Doesn't make any sense otherwise as no cert affects the price.

[Neal 544]

Would it need one for engine transplant ?

325i and 328i have same power quoted by the factory when standard.

Seats would bolt in. Thinking it would be suspension that may need it.

[qube 3570]

manual conversion definitely needs a cert

[huff3r 347]

Larger capacity engine also always requires a cert even if same/similar power.

[M3AN 4016]

I actually think it should be illegal to sell a car without a cert if the car requires one. Unless it's de-registered and therefore illegal to use on the road.

Anyway, the only two things I have to say about this car:

1. it looks terrible on 16's

2. does an e46 rear coupe seat fit straight into an e36, side bolsters and all?

[gjm 3258]

...

2. does an e46 rear coupe seat fit straight into an e36, side bolsters and all?

Well spotted!

[RedRocketTi 131]

manual conversion definitely needs a cert

Manual conversion doesnt need cert. As taken from LVVTA Threashold tables:

Certification is not required so long as:

• The OE gearbox cross-member has not been heated, cut, or welded; and
• the OE gearbox cross-member mounting to the OE body or chassis members is unchanged; and
• no replacement gearbox cross-member is used; and
• the OE drive-shaft(s) is un-modified; and
• no substantial modifications have occurred

http://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplementary_information/LVVTA_LVV_Cert_Threshold.pdf

The engine could get away with saying that its an m52b25 that has had a stroker kit put in and is still making less than 20% more power and get away with it that way.

[JohnM575 112]

I actually think it should be illegal to sell a car without a cert if the car requires one. Unless it's de-registered and therefore illegal to use on the road.

Amen.

[huff3r 347]

Stroker kit won't fly, the 25% rule applies essentially to bolt on modifications, not full engine rebuilds. Also, if you read the FAQs then you will see that threshold refers to swapping gearboxes like for like, and a manual conversion according to lvvta always requires a cert.

[KwS 2425]

Manual conversion doesnt need cert. As taken from LVVTA Threashold tables:

Certification is not required so long as:

• The OE gearbox cross-member has not been heated, cut, or welded; and
• the OE gearbox cross-member mounting to the OE body or chassis members is unchanged; and
• no replacement gearbox cross-member is used; and
• the OE drive-shaft(s) is un-modified; and
• no substantial modifications have occurred

http://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplementary_information/LVVTA_LVV_Cert_Threshold.pdf

The engine could get away with saying that its an m52b25 that has had a stroker kit put in and is still making less than 20% more power and get away with it that way.

Good luck doing most manual conversions without changing drive shaft or crossmember...

This topic is beaten to death. Just do it properly and cert the damn thing.