Is This Where The E30 Market Is Now..?

[Olaf 3317]

On 5/6/2021 at 9:31 AM, Southerner said:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/3082704918

This one has valuations of $15k, be interesting to see its final sell value

This is a sister car to mine, only ~50 units younger than mine on the VIN.  Looks tidy, and is an excellent project base, lightest-weight e30 shell (slicktop poverty spec).  

[Ghost Chip 188]

@E30 325i Rag-Top Mate are you having a bidding party by yourself?

[E30 325i Rag-Top 2957]

Nah, just trying to find where the reserve is set, without “accidentally” ending up owning it!

[Ghost Chip 188]

1 hour ago, E30 325i Rag-Top said:

Nah, just trying to find where the reserve is set, without “accidentally” ending up owning it!

Accidentally owning an e30 can be almost impossible nowadays

[Ghost Chip 188]

@E30 325i Rag-Top Not too sure if you’ve viewed the e30 you had a bidding party with but I viewed it yesterday. While one of them looks alright, not too sure if the other rust spot should be of concern (2nd photo). Wonder how much it’d cost to repair.

Engine also didn’t turn over first time around even though it was already warm (Ross said it hasn’t happened before even when left for a few weeks), and generally takes a bit more time to start - may just be the engine showing its age.

Edited May 10, 2021 by Ghost Chip

[Olaf 3317]

2 hours ago, Ghost Chip said:

Engine also didn’t turn over first time around even though it was already warm (Ross said it hasn’t happened before even when left for a few weeks), and generally takes a bit more time to start - may just be the engine showing its age.

 

 

showing a lack of maintenance.  showing it's age is a result of following the standard kiwi maintenance plan (do f*ck-all, then pass it off as 'old').

[Bandit 194]

8 hours ago, Olaf said:

showing a lack of maintenance.  showing it's age is a result of following the standard kiwi maintenance plan (do f*ck-all, then pass it off as 'old').

Err that's "Patina" Olaf. Buzzword of the 21st century😉

Edited May 10, 2021 by Bandit

[gjm 3258]

18 hours ago, Olaf said:

showing a lack of maintenance.  showing it's age is a result of following the standard kiwi maintenance plan (do f*ck-all, then pass it off as 'old').

 

9 hours ago, Bandit said:

Err that's "Patina" Olaf. Buzzword of the 21st century😉

And there was me thinking it was 'character'. Perfect and immaculate for year.

[Ghost Chip 188]

18 hours ago, Olaf said:

showing a lack of maintenance.  showing it's age is a result of following the standard kiwi maintenance plan (do f*ck-all, then pass it off as 'old').

Genuine question here as I’m new to this. What would you maintain to be able to prevent that? Replacing plugs? Injectors? Pump? Regulator? Would that mean that it’s “fixable”?

[Olaf 3317]

On 5/11/2021 at 6:20 AM, Bandit said:

Err that's "Patina" Olaf. Buzzword of the 21st century😉

patina is a visual thing.  Ghost Chip was outlining an engine that's hard to start.  The danger of buzzwords is not knowing where to apply them!

[Olaf 3317]

22 hours ago, Ghost Chip said:

Genuine question here as I’m new to this. What would you maintain to be able to prevent that? Replacing plugs? Injectors? Pump? Regulator? Would that mean that it’s “fixable”?

can't answer without seeing the car in question, and should be noted I'm a moderately knowlegable enthusiast rather than a professional mechanic.  I don't mean to sound down on a car you've viewed, I don't even know which one you're referring to.  

Basic regular maintenance on e30 includes oil, oil filter, air filter; brake fluid and coolant every two years; and general mechanical inspection and replacement of parts ahead of every WoF (brakes, suspension, steering) and that good old lubrication of hinges, inspection and replacement of belts, plugs etc at the correct intervals.  Many cars don't even get this much care.  Your run-of-the-mill Toyota/Honda/Nissan/Hyundai etc can withstand more abuse with less maintenance.  An e30 - now in classic status - needs more care.  Hope that helps.

[Ghost Chip 188]

3 hours ago, Olaf said:

can't answer without seeing the car in question, and should be noted I'm a moderately knowlegable enthusiast rather than a professional mechanic.  I don't mean to sound down on a car you've viewed, I don't even know which one you're referring to.  

Basic regular maintenance on e30 includes oil, oil filter, air filter; brake fluid and coolant every two years; and general mechanical inspection and replacement of parts ahead of every WoF (brakes, suspension, steering) and that good old lubrication of hinges, inspection and replacement of belts, plugs etc at the correct intervals.  Many cars don't even get this much care.  Your run-of-the-mill Toyota/Honda/Nissan/Hyundai etc can withstand more abuse with less maintenance.  An e30 - now in classic status - needs more care.  Hope that helps.

For reference, it was this car I was talking about. And don’t worry, I didn’t even take it that way. https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-3081744318.htm

It both does and doesn’t help. I guess where I’m getting at is if it’s the engine not being maintained rather than the engine ageing so to speak, then it should be somewhat reversible by replacing the parts that have worn out? Or is it that if the engine takes noticeable time to turn over, it’s beyond repair / salvaging?

[Olaf 3317]

it could be ignition system, starter motor, sensors, fuel... best thing you can do is get a really good PPI done by a specialist that really knows the e30.  There's no reason an M20B25 shouldn't be able to run and drive just like when new, especially if it's had a quality rebuild.  No sense loading the parts cannon, get expert diagnosis, get it sussed, and then reward the same business with your loyalty for maintenance to take care of the car and keep it running.  HTH.

[leichtbau 525]

On 5/6/2021 at 10:01 AM, E28E30 said:

Hi Harm, does that mean the smiley headlights were fitted at some later date?

Your knowledge is encyclopaedic:)

Yep smileys fitted at a later date, it's a very simple mod and a huge improvement over the prefacelift sealed beams.

[leichtbau 525]

@Ghost Chip @Olaf the motor in question is now a 2.8 is it not? The first question that should be asked is what management its running.

[Ghost Chip 188]

2 hours ago, leichtbau said:

@Ghost Chip @Olaf the motor in question is now a 2.8 is it not? The first question that should be asked is what management its running.

Yup, stroked engine. Does that mean the ECU?

[Bandit 194]

15 hours ago, Olaf said:

patina is a visual thing.  Ghost Chip was outlining an engine that's hard to start.  The danger of buzzwords is not knowing where to apply them!

But of course you would say that. Pedantic till the last

[Allanw 1071]

It that rust on a South African built car?

They suffer from rust in the weirdest of places!

[dirtydoogle 383]

On 5/11/2021 at 4:13 PM, Ghost Chip said:

Genuine question here as I’m new to this. What would you maintain to be able to prevent that? Replacing plugs? Injectors? Pump? Regulator? Would that mean that it’s “fixable”?

Probably just a faulty anti drain valve in the pump. 

[leichtbau 525]

Another mt1 out of the woodwork... https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/specialist-cars/competition-cars/listing/3091182680

[Bandit 194]

3 hours ago, leichtbau said:

Another mt1 out of the woodwork... https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/specialist-cars/competition-cars/listing/3091182680

Aaah yes, the rare motorshop coupe.😀

[gjm 3258]

14 hours ago, leichtbau said:

Another mt1 out of the woodwork... https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/specialist-cars/competition-cars/listing/3091182680

From factory with Sports front seats, M-Sport suspension and 25% LSD.

[E30 325i Rag-Top 2957]

Depending on what the reserve is it’s almost worth buying to convert back to a road car, given it is a genuine NZ New Tech 1.

Would be a bit of work cutting out the cage and re-fitting the interior, but potentially worthwhile.

[E28E30 335]

57 minutes ago, E30 325i Rag-Top said:

Depending on what the reserve is it’s almost worth buying to convert back to a road car, given it is a genuine NZ New Tech 1.

Would be a bit of work cutting out the cage and re-fitting the interior, but potentially worthwhile.

Was thinking the same  interior hard to come by?

[E30 325i Rag-Top 2957]

Certain upholstery is harder to get and therefore more expensive - a decent set of sports seats in houndstooth (which is what I think the door cards are) would be a few bucks. Most of the stuff would be common across all the E30 so plenty around.