jin108 25 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-1039131262.htm http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/auction-1027100103.htm Is it because the older one is NZ new it has same asking price even though its 6 years older, previous generation and has 55k more kms on it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff002 23 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 i will buy martin's one.much better look after. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aja540i 1906 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 Supply and demand, easier to find an e60 m5 than a nice well looked after e39 m5! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 the e39 this seller is selling seems way overpriced IMO. the e60 on the other hand is priced quite well though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkonsta1 109 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 Could be also the fact that the E60 is an SMG gearbox which seems to be not as popular as the manual of the E39. Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 One is fugly, the other is a classic. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matth5 471 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 The E60s have depreciated quite badly, they're generally around the 30k mark. I think the main reasons are their looks and maintenance costs. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qube 3570 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 fuel economy of 200kms to a tank might have something to do with it.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aja540i 1906 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 fuel economy of 200kms to a tank might have something to do with it.. Hah, i can get 300ks to a tank no problem! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WYZEUP 283 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 The E39 was the last real drivers car, after then too many electronic controllers etc.. took over and ruined the drive of all the pure power. Also the interior of the e60 :spew: 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fred_ 166 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 The E39 has sold. It was my car and advertised through AEM. They are an appreciating classic with lower production numbers hence why they command a premium. Someone should buy martins Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael. 2313 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 In my opinion as well the S62 is vastly better sounding motor, then again I'm bias for a good V8 track - they just hit all the right notes and tones that really stir the soul... Somehow the V10 with its particular firing order is not anywhere near as alluring, if anything it's annoying to my ear... like a loud Honda, I think if they sounded more like the V10 Dodge viper I'd like them more, but of course they run a different firing sequence among other design differences. Eg, 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2421 Report post Posted February 29, 2016 Not many people agree with me, but i feel that the V10 M5 is the worst sounding M5 of the lot. Doesnt sound like a V10, just sounds ugly. Its also not much of a looker. The E39 is a fantastic looking car, and that engine/trans.... mmm. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff002 23 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 Not many people agree with me, but i feel that the V10 M5 is the worst sounding M5 of the lot. Doesnt sound like a V10, just sounds ugly. Its also not much of a looker. The E39 is a fantastic looking car, and that engine/trans.... mmm. agree,V8 sound better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingkarl 136 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 I'd take the e60 everytime. And the v10 sounds better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jin108 25 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 Interesting i didnt think there was so much hate for the E60 M5. Personally i think the S85 engine is incredible (and the S65 too). But numbers dont lie prices on E60 M5s are taking a beating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Breaker 980 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 Interestingly there where almost about the same amount manufactured of both E39 and E60/61 combined. I believe it'll be the maintenance costs mainly, and the E39 is manual only with supply now very limited, demand will push prices only one way. Having got both models, but not Ms, the E39 has more character but the E61 is a better car. Then I have the benefit of comparing V8s only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BreakMyWindow 1874 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 Love the E60 but mostly because of that engine. Having been for a joy ride in Andrews wagon and Brents M6 convertable i'm a believer! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aja540i 1906 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 If you put a gun to my head i would say i prefer the V10 sound at full noise, but only at full noise, the v8 sounds much sexier at low rpm. There is no doubt in my mind the the e60/61 m5 is the better car, but if there was an e39 m5 touring that would be my pick. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allanw 1071 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 if there was an e39 m5 touring that would be my pick. You should have made one... you still can... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbmiester 922 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 E60, I owned an E60 and drove an E39 for a while and the E60 was hands down the better car. Now that may be different at M5 level so I will defer to those who know better but I will say one of the best automotive noises I have heard is an E60 M5 revving hard. Closely followed by S54 at full noise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael. 2313 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 Full rpm is they key to get the good notes out of them. Certainly isn't the case at low rpm through car parks. Compare it to something like a B7 RS4 at low speed / revs, mmmmmmmmmmmm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aja540i 1906 Report post Posted March 1, 2016 Full rpm is they key to get the good notes out of them. Certainly isn't the case at low rpm through car parks. Compare it to something like a B7 RS4 at low speed / revs, mmmmmmmmmmmm Yeah, Audi seem to have it over BMW when it comes to exhaust noise, i probably wouldnt own one, but there used to be a lady who drove an rs6 past my work every day at pace and i could listen to that all day! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treone 644 Report post Posted March 2, 2016 I would take the E60 M5. Oh wait I have The sound of the V10 in full flight is simply something else. and when coupled with torque - simply amazing! Then when you press the M button - all hell breaks loose... But I wouldn't say no to an E39 M5 either Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites