jon dee 500 Report post Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) What happened here ? Drugs ? Reminds me of that old cowboy song... I've never gone to bed with an ugly woman but I've sure woken up with a few Cheers... Edited March 6, 2021 by jon dee Bad screenshot... 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjm 3258 Report post Posted March 6, 2021 Welcome to the 2020 BMW 440i xDrive Coupe M-Performance. Good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andrewm 236 Report post Posted March 6, 2021 7 hours ago, gjm said: Welcome to the 2020 BMW 440i xDrive Coupe M-Performance. Good luck. Bit of a mouthful requires a big mouth. The design all makes sense now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jon dee 500 Report post Posted March 6, 2021 Car looks like it is going to sniff my cars ass Cheers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2425 Report post Posted March 7, 2021 What a mess, and the grille is only part of the issue. So many redundant lines in the bodywork, the rear arches are out of proportion, the front bumper is all over the place. Ugh, better off with a C-Class or A4. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jon dee 500 Report post Posted March 7, 2021 I think I know where the creative inspiration came from... Cheers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) I speculate that VW and Audi will make great leaps forward in market share based on BMW's most recent design direction. Bring back Bangle. Edited March 7, 2021 by M3AN 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hqstu 780 Report post Posted March 7, 2021 As I've said before, BMW today is only enhancing the value of e39/46... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
balancerider 758 Report post Posted March 7, 2021 I don't think I've ever seen a car (not SUV) where 19's look totally under-wheeled / lost in the arches before 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted March 7, 2021 Yeah, it's fugly everywhere. And it wouldn't surprise me if BMW referred to it as a sedan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leichtbau 525 Report post Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, M3AN said: Yeah, it's fugly everywhere. And it wouldn't surprise me if BMW referred to it as a sedan. It's definitely a coupe in their marketing, how else will they be able to call a 5 door hatchback a "gran coupe" with a straight face. Edited March 7, 2021 by leichtbau Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2956 Report post Posted March 7, 2021 Ahh, now you see, that is where you are mistaken, the 5 door Hatchback is the Gran Tourismo, the Gran Coupe is a 4-door with a boot. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwhelan 241 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 if you place your hand over the screen to block out from windscreen forward it is a 2008 skyline Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2425 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 They were an ugly car too, so that doesnt help 😂 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbmiester 923 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 The body changes on the M4 make it a much easier car to look at. In fact I quite like the M4. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2425 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, Herbmiester said: The body changes on the M4 make it a much easier car to look at. In fact I quite like the M4. Really? 🤮 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Navin 180 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, Herbmiester said: The body changes on the M4 make it a much easier car to look at. In fact I quite like the M4. Agree, I'm a fan of the M3 and the M4. Certainly wouldn't say no to one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
balancerider 758 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 Agree chunky rear arches improve it quite a bit. I love the idea of an M3 Touring but an M340i is certainly better to look at from the front. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leichtbau 525 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) Compare an E46 coupe to an E46 M3 - both very handsome cars in their own right, as are the E92 and E92 M3. In fact, I'd go so far as to say the E92 is the best looking 3 series "coupe" ever designed. The F32 is awkward and slab sided in its design language in non F82 M4 guise, the design doesn't become cohesive until the arches are flared and the car is lowered to remove the arch gap - same problem with the G22 to G82 M4, and that's not even delving into the front end. Edited March 8, 2021 by leichtbau Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2425 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 Never been a fan of the E92 coupes, the E90 M3 is a far better looking car, as is the E46 M3. Anything after the E9x series just got a bit too busy with too many sharp angles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2425 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 Also, I cant help but see the current gen Mustang when looking at the rear quarter of that M4 above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwi_BMW 89 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 On 3/7/2021 at 5:06 PM, jon dee said: I think I know where the creative inspiration came from... Cheers... The dog looks cute, well cuter than the 440i, the M4 does look better, but that could be because the number plate breaks the grills. Back when the E60 came out a lot of people hated it, but it's actually aged rather well, better than most others from that era. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jon dee 500 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 It is curious how the grille, being one of the more distinctive features of a car, has gone through several cycles from massive to minimalist. Before aerodynamics became the dominant force in car design, the Rolls Royce grille was one of the most widely recognised automotive styling features in the world. Then when reducing the drag coefficient became a design goal the grille became smaller, and in some cases disappeared altogether in favour of an opening below the bumper. Now, in a somewhat retrograde step, the grille has once again become an important styling feature with manufacturers competing to see who can create the largest and ugliest combination of "race inspired" grille and cooling ducts at the front of their cars. Audi were at the forefront of the movement and Lexus soon followed. Now ir seems that BMW does not want to miss the boat and its formerly beautiful cars are being disfigured with the 2020 BMW 440i xDrive Coupe M-Performance being a prime example. I have a 2008 335i E92 and one of the reasons I bought it is that I also consider it to be one of the best looking cars ever made Purely subjective of course and everyone will have their own favourite, but I would rather catch a bus that drive something that looks like a caricature from a pre-schooler's book !!! Fashion comes and goes but class is forever Cheers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwi_BMW 89 Report post Posted March 10, 2021 Those Studebaker Avantis may not win a beauty pagent but they sell for pretty good coin these days Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jon dee 500 Report post Posted March 10, 2021 The R3 version ran 170mph at Bonneville and was claimed to be the world's fastest production car in 1963. I guess it was a kind of last ditch effort by Studebaker and the Avanti probably a bit too radical for the time. Didn't save the company but bonus points for trying something different Cheers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
