hybrid 1044 Report post Posted January 18, 2013 My horse and car is better than your horse and cart. Its human nature. Has nothing to do with saving the planet as much as it seem it does. Not that the planet actually needs saving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beemn 50 Report post Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) Empty your pockets Dislike!, but McMillans paid for it all so not all bad......yet Edited January 18, 2013 by beemn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allan 295 Report post Posted January 18, 2013 Arrr technology what a wonderful fickle thing of the modern age. What happens to you and society when it fails in one shape or another?. As Glenn said it empty's your pocket for one makes you reliant upon it in varying degrees in another so what happens if it is removed/ fails would you know how to cope. An extreme view maybe lets slim it down a bit then how good is the average driver these days to control a car in a slid without the abs, asc, dsc any other symbols you want to throw in. What feel does the driver have from the vehicle these days to tell him what is happening really where the tyres meet the road, how the engine is running and sounds etc. How many of you could put down/ turn off your cellphone or MP3 players and not get withdrawal symptoms. How self reliant are we as people, families a nation for that matter on items that rule our lives and we are not even aware they do it at varying degrees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted January 18, 2013 Arrr technology what a wonderful fickle thing of the modern age. What happens to you and society when it fails in one shape or another?. As Glenn said it empty's your pocket for one makes you reliant upon it in varying degrees in another so what happens if it is removed/ fails would you know how to cope. An extreme view maybe lets slim it down a bit then how good is the average driver these days to control a car in a slid without the abs, asc, dsc any other symbols you want to throw in. What feel does the driver have from the vehicle these days to tell him what is happening really where the tyres meet the road, how the engine is running and sounds etc. How many of you could put down/ turn off your cellphone or MP3 players and not get withdrawal symptoms. How self reliant are we as people, families a nation for that matter on items that rule our lives and we are not even aware they do it at varying degrees. thats a bit deep alan....having trouble with the wiring of the project?. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi535 538 Report post Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) It really amazes me .. they can do all this : Adaptive Drive, Adaptive Headlights, Comfort access, Climate Comfort Windscreen, Comfort Seats, Hi-Fi stereo system, Heated Seats, Navigation System Professional, Park Distance Control, Soft Close Doors, Self Leveling Suspension, Sunroof Electric, Sunblind Rear Window, Voice control, 21 Alloy Wheels. But they can't stop them burning or leaking oil & water at very low kilometers Where is all this so called technology taking us ?? they need a good thrashing before they get the first service.I really believe they need some full throttle bursts before that are very old. Edited January 18, 2013 by kiwi535 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2963 Report post Posted January 18, 2013 My horse and car is better than your horse and cart. Its human nature. Has nothing to do with saving the planet as much as it seem it does. Not that the planet actually needs saving There is certainly a lot of "wank factor" in some of the new technology, some of it is cool and useful whilst some is just for sh!t drivers and lazy drivers. Some of the ideas in the pipeline are pretty mind-blowing stuff, but it will be interesting to see if we ever get the infrastructure in NZ to use any of it!In terms of saving the planet - a lot is being forced onto all car manufacturers with the ever tightening emissions legislation - has to be met somehow (whether it is saving the planet is certainly debatable, but lets put it into that category), plus BMW in particular is very strong on sustainability and recycling seems to be something the Germans are into for some reason ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
curves.asia 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) In terms of saving the planet - a lot is being forced onto all car manufacturers with the ever tightening emissions legislation - has to be met somehow (whether it is saving the planet is certainly debatable, but lets put it into that category), plus BMW in particular is very strong on sustainability and recycling seems to be something the Germans are into for some reason ! Even though it does seem that all car manufacturers is forced into tightened emissions legislations, and followed them to make more sustainable cars, it's almost certainly debatable about the whole "saving the planet" thing. Not many have heard about the "efficiency paradox", but basically although cars are getting more and more sustainable it doesn't mean it will be used in a sustainable way. Putting it this way, perhaps one day you get those BMW activehybrid or something like that - people do buy them, but drive it more than they would with a normal car because it costs less to drive and fill up so there isn't much difference with using a normal car because healthier sustainable or "greener" technologies doesn't mean decrease in emissions outputs. Smaller carbon footprints and emissions, yes. But other footprints would largely increase, as there is a limit (believe it or not) to how long we can recycle and recycle - there will STILL be waste output from recycling especially recycling used batteries. To make an electric car, although they are made to be sustainable - how they are made isn't. That's just my point of view Edited January 18, 2013 by curves.asia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antil33t 90 Report post Posted January 18, 2013 Spotted a smokey e90 320i today. Thought it would have been a number of years before seeing this happen ! I've seen plenty of fairly late model Japanese cars doing this too... Must be that technology thing... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ethrty-Andy_ 2136 Report post Posted January 19, 2013 I remember reading if you take the sum of the energy and emmissions used to build a first generation prius and then that used over the first 200,000kms and compare it to a regular car i forgot what they used, the prius is worse. LIon batteries usually have around 40-60%of thier original capacity after 7 years, less if used a lot, and the process to recycle those batteries isnt overly pretty. Better than being buried mind you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ethrty-Andy_ 2136 Report post Posted January 19, 2013 Alpine White E30 325i SE in the coromandel, plate was "BMW SE" Also talked to a guy with a V12 Murchialago, aparently he rents it out at $100/hr up here, not a bad deal! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vtgts300kw 90 Report post Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) Alpine White E30 325i SE in the coromandel, plate was "BMW SE" Also talked to a guy with a V12 Murchialago, aparently he rents it out at $100/hr up here, not a bad deal! Was it Yellow? $100 seems far too cheap. Saw BYF100 near Victoria Park earlier. Stunning. Edited January 19, 2013 by vtgts300kw Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted January 19, 2013 spotted a green v12 850 being raced at Hamptons dam nice guy to talk to and got it for a bargain more time on it there's plenty of potential great to see it running....i want it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1044 Report post Posted January 19, 2013 spotted a green v12 850 being raced at Hamptons dam nice guy to talk to and got it for a bargain more time on it there's plenty of potential great to see it running....i want it Talk nicely to Jamez and he might sell his and aprils 850 v12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
No name user 379 Report post Posted January 19, 2013 Talk nicely to Jamez and he might sell his and aprils 850 v12 the things i could do to it lol only want the one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OneSeventy 1 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 Saw a chrome 3rd or 4th gen Dodge Viper in Albany the other day. That's right, chrome. Disgusting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smac01 12 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 This on the southern motorway last night - tidy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apex 693 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 Was it Yellow? $100 seems far too cheap. Saw BYF100 near Victoria Park earlier. Stunning. AFAIK he drives you round for $100 an hour, you do not get to drive it... I cant think of anything more embarrassing than being driven around in a yellow Lamborghini by a man in his late 50's, you would look like his special friend. Spotted a White Touring in Papakura, has AC Schnauzer wheels and is not as low as the driver things it is with his slow and sideways speed bump approach angle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vtgts300kw 90 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 This on the southern motorway last night - tidy. Saw that at Hampton Downs last year. Stunning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybrid 1044 Report post Posted January 23, 2013 nice to se wayne using his car Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2093 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 e30 Thursday! Saw a black sedan with rusted bonnet and roof racks coming down Greville rd at lunch time. Saw a white sedan with tech 1 kit at the shops in Albany. Saw a nice black m325 back on Greville going home - license plate something like driftit. Then saw a nice standard looking sedan on East coast... They everywhere here on the sunny side of Auckland I own the M325. Is my daily. I see so many Bimmersport people out this way. At least one member every two days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dyl 4 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 nice to se wayne using his car HAHA Such a nice car Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ethrty-Andy_ 2136 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 AFAIK he drives you round for $100 an hour, you do not get to drive it... I cant think of anything more embarrassing than being driven around in a yellow Lamborghini by a man in his late 50's, you would look like his special friend. agreed, yep thats the guy. not my cup of tea. roads up the top of the coromandle are sh*t anyway, my wagon touched the ground from time to time and its not THAT low, the lambo looks lower still. I own the M325. Is my daily. I see so many Bimmersport people out this way. At least one member every two days. i rarely see anyone down here. considering putting a bimmersport decal on my econovan for a headlight flick now and again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huff3r 347 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 i rarely see anyone down here. considering putting a bimmersport decal on my econovan for a headlight flick now and again Am I allowed one on my Falcon? Or the Rangie? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
euroriffic 612 Report post Posted January 24, 2013 A silver e39 touring on Mpars and another e39 touring which looks like it was glacier green, something different Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucan 196 Report post Posted January 25, 2013 Saw Jeff by Panmure, I see members all the time too...must be few of us out east Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
