arktis 58 Report post Posted November 2, 2023 😆 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2956 Report post Posted November 2, 2023 I think I might need to get one of those, old one is worn out and wrinkly. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lord_jagganath 421 Report post Posted December 14, 2023 Just got myself a '15 VW Touareg,. was split between that touareg and the F15 X5, but when the touareg is about 6k less dear... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruski 34 Report post Posted December 15, 2023 This is way off topic but maybe belongs in this thread..... I stumbled across these characters on the webatron the other day and have now skimmed through quite a bit of their material. It is some sort of hypnotic catharsis.....anyway, way off topic but worth a butchers hook if only for shtz and giggles: Ghost driving while roof and car bonnet surfing (youtube.com) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olaf 3317 Report post Posted December 15, 2023 On 12/14/2023 at 3:31 PM, lord_jagganath said: Just got myself a '15 VW Touareg,. was split between that touareg and the F15 X5, but when the touareg is about 6k less dear... all depends on your use case, and how much you're willing to forgive Wolfsberg for intentionally misleading and gassing humans... 😎 They're both a nice drive. Your $6k discount is directly attributable to Dieselgate! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palazzo 477 Report post Posted December 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Olaf said: all depends on your use case, and how much you're willing to forgive Wolfsberg for intentionally misleading and gassing humans... 😎 They're both a nice drive. Your $6k discount is directly attributable to Dieselgate! And for ruining the market perception of diesel forever. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lord_jagganath 421 Report post Posted December 15, 2023 ^ considering I drove a 2011 VW CC TDI at the time of the scandal... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2425 Report post Posted January 16 On 12/15/2023 at 4:10 PM, Olaf said: all depends on your use case, and how much you're willing to forgive Wolfsberg for intentionally misleading and gassing humans... 😎 They're both a nice drive. Your $6k discount is directly attributable to Dieselgate! Who hasn't had a good scandal tbh. If you were worried about the ethics of your car, you wouldn't have a car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-130 Hercules 571 Report post Posted January 16 Finally... 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-130 Hercules 571 Report post Posted January 16 Ice pay through fuel excise Diesel via RUC Ev and hybrid through future ruc Bicycles, scooters, horse carts next? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwhelan 241 Report post Posted January 16 3 hours ago, C-130 Hercules said: Finally... to be fair, labour had already passed that before they left, it had been extended multiple times from its original date, great news though 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aja540i 1906 Report post Posted January 16 10 hours ago, C-130 Hercules said: Ice pay through fuel excise Diesel via RUC Ev and hybrid through future ruc Bicycles, scooters, horse carts next? I can't complain, I've had 5 years of free commuting!! Interested to see how they will apply it to plug in hybrids, I can't see people being happy to pay twice (fuel tax + RUCs) but anything else will be a pain to calculate! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freaknout 47 Report post Posted January 16 "Interesting" RUC calculation for hybrids at $57/1000km, which assumes they all run at 3l/100km (referenced from the source, not performed my own calculations). A missed opportunity to change the flat rate of $76/1000km for everything under 3.5T. Quite a large difference between your 118d and M50d 😂 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2956 Report post Posted January 16 6 hours ago, aja540i said: Interested to see how they will apply it to plug in hybrids, I can't see people being happy to pay twice (fuel tax + RUCs) but anything else will be a pain to calculate! I understand the process is to pay the RUCs for all distance travelled, both electric and petrol - the claim back the excise duty on the fuel. Bit of a pain but seems reasonable in the circumstances. Not sure about non-plug in hybrids though.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-130 Hercules 571 Report post Posted January 16 Hybrids are charged at a reduced rate of $53/1000km Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2956 Report post Posted January 17 3 hours ago, C-130 Hercules said: Hybrids are charged at a reduced rate of $53/1000km Plug-in Hybrids pay the $53 / 1000kms, seems the govt have again decided to ignore the suggestions of the industry. 48v Mild-hybrids, and Hybrids that don’t plug in to charge (like the Uber Prius) seem to get away from the RUC, probably because they don’t travel far on electric power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palazzo 477 Report post Posted January 17 That cost on plug ins must be close to eroding their advantage? My in laws won’t be happy with their new Outlander, that’s for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 1060 Report post Posted January 17 Just had a customer query about trading their phev in for a hev, just watch the price of used ones plummet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neil McCauley 394 Report post Posted January 17 What does a 330e fall under? Was thinking of making that my next car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KwS 2425 Report post Posted January 17 Just now, Neil McCauley said: What does a 330e fall under? Was thinking of making that my next car. if it plugs in, it pays reduced RUC. If it doesnt plug in and is a normal hybrid, only pay fuel tax. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aja540i 1906 Report post Posted January 17 So, an i3 with a range extender, is that a plug in hybrid or an EV under the new scheme? Has anyone got one, i would be interested to see what your letter from the Govt says when you get it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2078 Report post Posted January 17 (edited) 22 hours ago, freaknout said: "Interesting" RUC calculation for hybrids at $57/1000km, which assumes they all run at 3l/100km (referenced from the source, not performed my own calculations). A missed opportunity to change the flat rate of $76/1000km for everything under 3.5T. Quite a large difference between your 118d and M50d 😂 They absolutely have the data and ability to do this too. It is already half assed in place for heavy vehicles. Worked with all this data when I worked for Eroad. Edited January 17 by Driftit 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palazzo 477 Report post Posted January 17 I think you can take the whole emissions thing seriously when you no longer see ex Japan refrigerated trucks being driven around belching black smoke. I assume they will do this at some stage which will be interesting for all the egr/dpf delete folk. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2078 Report post Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Palazzo said: I think you can take the whole emissions thing seriously when you no longer see ex Japan refrigerated trucks being driven around belching black smoke. I assume they will do this at some stage which will be interesting for all the egr/dpf delete folk. Government needs to start going after companies that have been doing this. Good money to be made. Company was fined $1m USD last year for it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E30 325i Rag-Top 2956 Report post Posted January 17 7 hours ago, aja540i said: So, an i3 with a range extender, is that a plug in hybrid or an EV under the new scheme? Has anyone got one, i would be interested to see what your letter from the Govt says when you get it? As the range extender engine doesn’t drive the wheels directly it is classed as a fully electric vehicle. Or it did when it was set up with the NZTA, but with all the categories now in place it might have been shoved somewhere else. TBH should only be running the extender in case of emergency. There has been much talk of emissions testing as part of the WoF for a long time, and for a while it did sound like they were going to get serious about it. But like a lot of things it seems to have gone onto the back burner. i think even the EU6 requirementw for cars coming in has been put back, so we are not “ahead” of Aussie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
