zero 1162 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 On 11/5/2019 at 10:20 AM, gjm said: Update... Ordered from FCP Euro on 22/10, with (free) delivery to MyUS. Updated by MyUS and shipped to NZ using FedEx International Economy, where it was delivered this morning - 5th November. Two weeks order to door. Takes NZ Post that long to get something through customs (having already spent 3-4 days getting it from the plane to customs), then that long again to deliver in country! How much cheaper was the shipping this way than just shipping straight from FCP? I've found FCP's shipping costs not too bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huff3r 347 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 5 hours ago, zero said: I know Amazon wont ship internationally to Australia anymore after they passed the same law. So likely Amazon wont ship here either anymore. Amazon US still does, all their other sites no longer ship to NZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sweetm3 180 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 Guessing that this is because of the changes "Hi Mark,If the buyer is international, it makes things much more complicated. Also, I will stay within the boundaries of eBay’s features. This is why I’d rather handle a domestic sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olaf 3317 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, zero said: I know Amazon wont ship internationally to Australia anymore after they passed the same law. So likely Amazon wont ship here either anymore. It's okay, MyUS.com still ships here, they're all sorted with the new laws and charges. Fear not! ... so you can buy on eBay, ship to your Florida address, aggregate, trans-ship to Niu Zild, and pay your Gubbermint Stealing Tax here too. Everybody wins. Edited December 2, 2019 by Olaf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjm 3258 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 26 minutes ago, Olaf said: It's okay, MyUS.com still ships here, they're all sorted with the new laws and charges. Fear not! ... so you can buy on eBay, ship to your Florida address, aggregate, trans-ship to Niu Zild, and pay your Gubbermint Stealing Tax here too. Everybody wins. Shouldn't be any additional charges on receipt in NZ - MyUS is playing GST collector for NZ and charging the recipient (you, me, etc) the GST before they'll ship. Unfortunately it does mean paying local taxes in the US (if any) and paying GST, as the initial shipment will be a domestic one and thus not tax exempt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjm 3258 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 Presumably a shipment from overseas, with the customs form saying "GST paid", would clear customs in NZ without issue...? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hqstu 780 Report post Posted December 2, 2019 I alerted FCP Euro to this change a while ago now. I've just placed another order today and they did not charge GST... we'll see what happens as it crosses the border... Also emailed them about it and they replied that they will ask the shipping department for any "progress on this matter" On the news the other night it was stated that 372 companies worldwide had "signed up" to the requirement. That is 3/5ths of SFA and I predict chaos as all these packages arrive with no GST being paid? Will they try and collect it from us at the border? For all values? Down to $1? I suspect not... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olaf 3317 Report post Posted December 3, 2019 just as it was before, choose FedEx from FCP Euro, FedEx will then tell you how much you need to pay, and they'll give you time ahead of the package arrival. Service. The only thing that has changed are the thresholds and a tweak to a couple of the rules. The customs process remains the same. FedEx bread-and-butter business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle 1662 Report post Posted December 3, 2019 +1. All the main carriers have always handled GST, they just collect it on everything now. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zero 1162 Report post Posted December 3, 2019 12 hours ago, huff3r said: Amazon US still does, all their other sites no longer ship to NZ On the news I thought they said that Amazon international wont ship to Aussie after the law change? Did I hear it wrong? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabe79 410 Report post Posted December 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, zero said: On the news I thought they said that Amazon international wont ship to Aussie after the law change? Did I hear it wrong? Amazon International doesn't ship to Australia at all, but amazon.com.au has most things from Amazon International anyway, and they have Prime. So in many ways, they got a better deal in the end. The selection is more limited, but what Amazon does sell ships a lot cheaper to AU now. This thread makes me think I should travel home to the US more often and bring back some heavy things in my luggage selectively. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huff3r 347 Report post Posted December 3, 2019 12 hours ago, zero said: On the news I thought they said that Amazon international wont ship to Aussie after the law change? Did I hear it wrong? Sorry I was referring to still shipping to NZ, in which Amazon US still will but all their other sites no longer do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabe79 410 Report post Posted December 3, 2019 20 minutes ago, huff3r said: Sorry I was referring to still shipping to NZ, in which Amazon US still will but all their other sites no longer do. Ah my bad. Yeah, amazon.com.au does not ship here. I haven't tried co.uk in awhile, they might? Bookdepository still ships here just fine (That's amazon-owned too, if that isn't obvious) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e30ftw 410 Report post Posted December 9, 2019 I ordered from FCP last week 3rd December, got here today with FedEx. No GST paid. ? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2156 Report post Posted December 9, 2019 $500us order from china delivered today, no gst. System works good ? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adro 1083 Report post Posted December 9, 2019 ^^ my order from FCP turned up today too, no GST ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lord_jagganath 421 Report post Posted December 9, 2019 On 12/2/2019 at 10:37 PM, Eagle said: Ebay are now collecting gst on goods it seems just paid 15% more for my stuff, not sure if NZ will get the money.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Max 231 Report post Posted December 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Jacko said: $500us order from china delivered today, no gst. System works good ? If that's through Aliexpress or Alibaba, GST was paid without you knowing....... but does seem very random which sites/countries/companies they are targeting and whether or not you'll get done at the border..... very haphazard to say the least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 2156 Report post Posted December 9, 2019 Nah, just a specialist chinese retailer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Max 231 Report post Posted December 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jacko said: Nah, just a specialist chinese retailer The guy I'm staying with (Air BNB) is importing things as well, done through China, and also doesn't pay GST, there's gotta be millions of people that do it too that they can't trace....... logistical nightmare really. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjm 3258 Report post Posted December 9, 2019 9 hours ago, Mad_Max said: The guy I'm staying with (Air BNB) is importing things as well, done through China, and also doesn't pay GST, there's gotta be millions of people that do it too that they can't trace....... logistical nightmare really. This is the bit I just cannot understand. How is NZ persuading the rest of the world to collect GST on behalf of NZ, and getting that money paid to NZ? It makes no sense. Of course, the fundamental ineptitude of NZ Post means that were they to be required to apply tax to all imports, no-one would ever receive anything. NZ Post are - essentially - useless at this, and take weeks to do something that FedEx (etc) are able to do with no time penalty. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driftit 2078 Report post Posted December 9, 2019 We really should organise to ship all our FCP orders together though. Or could that get us picked up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M3AN 4016 Report post Posted December 9, 2019 That will almost certainly trigger a different process (>$1000) and we'd face duty on top of the GST. The best thing we can do is to petition our suppliers of preference to use unbranded packaging. Customs must have been crestfallen when the government introduced this during the Christmas rush, dumb move and probably why many packages will get through at the moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hqstu 780 Report post Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, M3AN said: duty Reading through some docs of govt websites, the only things that attract duty nowadays is some food, some liquor, some fuels. That's about it. There hasn't been any duty on auto parts for years as far as I understand things. There may well be import fees of various types for goods over $1000, but duty is all but history. I have parts awaiting pickup from my work... FCP Euro/via fedex, no GST charged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e30ftw 410 Report post Posted December 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Driftit said: We really should organise to ship all our FCP orders together though. Or could that get us picked up. A friend of mine last month split his order over two to avoid GST, but FedEx ended up picking up on it and he had to fork out once they landed. Seems like they don't care about anything less than $400 at the moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
