E30 325i Rag-Top

Depends what car it’s in, 22kg is very noticeable in a smaller / lighter car - especially up the front end in something like an E30. A power to weight comparison of the two engines would also be a telling comparison.

99% sure there were no changes to the wheel base or steel work for the F20 LCI, it was more re-designed bumpers and lights front and rear - plus a few modifications to the interior and under the skin. Skirt should fit, worse case there might be some minor tweaking of the attachments to make it work. I guess the donor car is too far away for you to view with your current skirt to compare the two?

@jon dee I can't be 100% sure but I think opening a thread that way takes you to the last point in the thread that you had looked at previously, so it shows you all the "new" posts that you haven't viewed before. So, if it's a really old post that you have not looked at previously it will take you back to the start, if it's a thread you have been into before it will take you to a point in the middle of the thread somewhere. I could well be wrong, but that is the way it seems to me. Another way to go into the thread is to go into the sub-forums, where it lists all the threads and shows their created dates and the number of pages, if you click on the page number it takes you directly there. So it if's a 10-year old thread with 20 pages you can choose where you want to start looking, might not be ideal, but does give you an element of control.

How are you accessing the threads? Are you responding to a notification, browsing through the forums, etc? Also are you on a phone or PC?

Yup - overseas diplomat, not NZ Govt fleet. So half right. Overseas spec, just goes to show how much extra kit is added to the “NZ New” spec versus most other countries.

I would be very surprised if that was ever part of the Crown Fleet (or ex Government as the seller refers). My understanding is that all the Crown cars are the same colour - silver, with the same interior - grey. No flag holders on the front guards, and no holes in the interior where all the extra radios, GPS trackers, etc are mounted. Pretty much every 730Ld ever listed on TardMe is called a Govt Car, one joker even tried to suggest his car was “THE Royal Visit” car. They do still pop up now and again on used car yards, and some of the latest fleet have started to show up at Turners as the greens push for EVs. EDIT: Just checked on carjam and as expected it has never been part of the NZ Crown Fleet (no CRxxx rego) but was in fact imported for an embassy and registered on a Diplo plate (DCxxxx) so half right I guess.

Ahh yes, "OE" and "OEM" the two most widely mis-used terms in the automotive world. I think this is an unfortunate side effect of the "Kiwi Ingenuity" or "number 8 wire mentality" where many Kiwis are happy to have a go a fixing / improving things that are well beyond their capabilities. Personally I have seen some absolute horrors in my time, some of which have resulted in serious acciddents, and many by people who were in the trade and should have known better.

Don't know that I fixed anything.. just went in and tried it, and it worked. I try to avoid any of the serious technical stuff and leave that to the Admins that know what they are doing. Maybe I've just got "the knack" Might try and see if I can fluke this one as well.

I was confused (easily done during lockdown when work is going mental) as to how I'd managed to take the electric seats out of a car and put them back in, I'm no bodybuilder but must have had my Weetbix that day.

So hard to put a price on something that is so widely (no pun intended) modified as this. Looks to be well done, as supported by BM THUG, and Racelab are no back street outfit. Would I pay $120k for it.. I prefer my E30s to be a bit more factory, and for that money I would want a bit more poke than a cooking version 4.4 V8. That said, would someone else pay that money for it… quite possibly.

Not at all shameful, I love that interior. The leather covered dash and door cards is a real nice touch plus a good way to hide / prevent those E30 cracks

It could be a basic shift in the market equilibrium… (random economics graph as a poor example) Or it could be, as is believed in this case, an error in the pricing showing on the configurator page.

That comes across to be a pretty judgemental statement - are you implying that the damage to both vehicles was solely down to an error by the driver?

@BM WORLD can you please put prices against the items you have listed as per forum rules.

Don’t forget the feel good factor of saving the planet. Plus I would expect the fuel costs to be driven up by taxes and penalties to further dissuade ICE vehicles from being used.

@M3_Power can you please add a photo to your post as per forum rules? Thanks.

Latest Government press release after the legislation passed it's first reading.. Clean Vehicles Bill passes first checkpoint The Land Transport (Clean Vehicles) Amendment Bill will help New Zealand drive down transport emissions by cleaning up the light vehicle fleet, Transport Minister Michael Wood says. The Bill passed its first reading today and will establish the legislative framework for key parts of the Government’s Clean Car Package, including the Clean Car Import Standard and Clean Car Discount. “The Clean Vehicles Bill passing its first reading means we’re another step closer to meeting our climate goals and fulfilling our manifesto commitment to implement the Clean Car Import Standard,” Michael Wood said. “Countries and car manufacturers around the world are shifting to cleaner cars, so we have to move quickly to stop us becoming a dumping ground for the world’s dirtiest vehicles. “The Bill will help prevent millions of tonnes of emissions from our light vehicle fleet, give Kiwis access to more cars that are cheaper to run, and make it cheaper for families to buy electric and low emission cars. It also helps bring us into line with most other countries in the OECD who already have import emission standards. “Due to the disruption caused by the current Delta outbreak, the expanded Clean Car Discount rebates and fees will begin from April 1 2022. This will help give the industry more time to gear up and the current rebates on electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles will continue until March 31 2022. “The funding allocated in Budget 2021 will be more than enough to continue to cover the Discount until the full regime comes into force. Clean Car Import Standard reporting will also begin later in 2022 and the full scheme will still come into force 1 January 2023,” Michael Wood said. Minister of Climate Change James Shaw said this legislation will help us move more meaningfully towards cleaning up our light vehicle fleet, which is a crucial part of our plan to decarbonise the transport system, more of which will be outlined in the Emissions Reduction Plan. “It is a key step on the path to a low carbon Aotearoa in which people have clean, affordable and climate-friendly ways of getting around,” James Shaw said. Select Committee will report back early February 2022 and then the remaining stages of the Bill will be gone through that month.

Oh no! Now look what you’ve gone and done, I’ve just got a PM threatening legal action if all the nasty things people have said aren’t removed. @Nobimmer I blame you personally for this.

Pretty sure you can’t just let it run out now, you have to either re-register or put it on hold. I got a Bill for my convertible one year as I was a bit slow putting it on hold, there is a grace period but it’s not too long. Had to pay for the gap between the previous rego expiring and when I put it on hold.

Some "interesting" additions into the legislation when it was introduced into Parliament last week, exerpt of the Industry response below: The car industry is claiming a new addition to upcoming Clean Car regulations allowing officials to set a proportion of an importers’ vehicles that must be zero-emission is an ‘ICE ban by stealth’. The Land Transport (Clean Vehicles) Amendment Bill was introduced by transport minister Michael Wood, who has insisted multiple times that it will be enacted this year. Industry groups have been digesting the document, with their first analysis coming to light now. A major concern highlighted to AutoTalk by both the Motor Industry Association (MIA) and Motor Trade Association is under the Clean Car Standard of the changes, regulators may set a minimum proportion of an importers vehicles that must be zero carbon emissions. Both groups note this requirement has not previously been consulted on. “The ability to set, by regulation, a minimum level of BEVs is an ICE ban by stealth,” MIA chief executive David Crawford says. “This is a new requirement not previously consulted on and is something the MIA totally opposes at this point in time. “In our view the Government should not make this decision until the discount and standard have been in place for at least seven to 10 years so they can properly assess with the reduction on CO2 emissions is tracking as desired and also that there are viable low emissions vehicles available in mass.” MTA advocacy and strategy manager Greig Epps calls this their ‘stand out concern’. “The proposed regulations would impose a further penalty or fine on an importer who could not meet this target,” Epps explains. “This sort of mechanism was never discussed in any of the consultation papers and it is a double blow to those importers who deal primarily in ICE vehicles. “This mechanism could be used to introduce an ICE ban without any further consultation with the industry or the public. If the proportion was set high enough, it would make it impossible for an importer to bring in a mix of vehicles. This has been widely relayed in various industry and mainstream publications, in this instance the full article can be found on Evs and Beyond here.. https://evsandbeyond.co.nz/clean-car-bill-ice-ban-by-stealth/

Not bad, especially being a manual. I might have a fog light that would fit in that hole in the front bumper…

There does seem to be some good buying in the E46 at the moment, prices seem to have pretty much bottomed out (even E36 are going up now!) and they are still a great looking car - especially in that spec, LCI with M Tech II body kit. A bigger engine would be good if you want to zoom, but if it's just pootling around town the 2.2ltr might be adequate. Wagons are nice, but of the options given in this thread I would take the M-Sport sedan over the non-M Sport wagon but then that is my personal taste. Quite often regret selling my wagon tbh. If you are not too fussed about the lack of modern tech - or want to fit aftermarket nav, etc systems then they are still great cars. I'm now off to browse TradeMe, dammnit now look what you've made me do!!

Well, clearly the E30 316i, why? Because E30. If it were easy to predict which would be the cool / collectable / valuable cars in 30+ years time then we would all be storing up cars when they hit the bottom of their depreciation curve to pull out in the future and make wads of cash. Ferrari, Aston Martin, Lambo, etc aside unfortunately there seems to be absolutely no rhyme or reason as to what becomes a collectable classic and what becomes an old lemon.

There are differing punishments for different crimes I guess, so it can be argued that the penalty for one (theft) should be different to the other (speeding), although if that M3 CSL owner was speeding at 100kph past a school at 8.30 in the morning then the crushing penalty would be more than justified. It's the different cars should be treated differently bit that I struggle with, what car the criminal owns shouldn't come into it, whether it's a rare collectable car or a common or garden shopping hatch, the penalty should be the same. Would it be unfortunate if a rare car got crushed because of a criminal, yes, should it still be crushed - hell yes, would I be sad about it? No. In this instance I think the crushing of the vehicle is down to the non-roadworthyness as much as it's dubious past. In other parts of the story it is referred to as a "cut-and-shut" that has been poorly executed and was deemed unsafe.

You’re assuming that the owner who had the car taken off him and crushed was the thief of the cars or knew parts were stolen. Story has now reached Driven, with a link to Instagram story, the fact that the judge ordered that the car should be returned and police had to pay out suggest the owner had no knowledge of or part in the thefts. As is often the case innocent buyer has lost out and the criminals not. Why should that make any bit of difference? Both are crimes and the punishment is the same. What the car is shouldn’t matter either, whatever it is, someone has it as their pride and joy. Interesting that the In the crushing video it looks like a lot of valuable parts have been removed - no engine / box / diff / wheels. Wonder if the scrappy is allowed to sell them as they were stolen..??