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Yes it would be registered as 2016 (date of first registration). But its still a 1972 car. Anyone who tried to sell it and advertised it as a 2016 would be a f**kwit. Now in the case of the OP, it's what? 2 years out? The seller probably isn't even aware or intending on deceiving anyone. Anyway, who gives a f**k. You're giving me a headache reading this sh*t.

if you had posted this a year ago, all the stretch kids would be in here, but fortunately, seems to be something that has been left behind in 2015. Suddenly the oversized tyre look i have on my E30 is cool again, maybe I'm a trend setter and ahead of the game??? idk looks good to me! I love an aggressive offset with a good chunky tyre and fender flares.

Hey guys, I recently picked up my first BMW, first European car actually, thought I'd say hi I am the proud new owner of a 2002 530i M Sport Here she is I'm still working on a name, nothing has jumped out at me so far, I've been spending last couple of weeks searching forums, googling etc some issues/thing I want to change, but seeing as I'm a novice with BMWs, I get a bit confused with the different chassis, do other problems from one chassis work for my E39 (when i say problems, I'm talking very minor, aesthetic really) and so on, some threads are 5 years old, dead links, missing pics, has something better come out since then and so on. Thats where I'm hoping you guys, with your wealth of knowledge, can point me in the right direction. This probably isn't the right place for my list of issues, so I'll try to keep them in the correct sub-forum. But yeah, if you're from The Naki, keep an eye out for me. Cheers, Dion

What speed was the cat doing?

Going back to somewhere near the original topic.. In my book the 'soul' of most Euro / Asian cars has gradually been killed by a combination of emissions / fuel consumption controls and safety / impact protection. When I started in the industry there were groups of crazy car people trying to make things that would scare you half to death. Now it's all bean counters, risk assessments and computer geeks. Even the M dudes have all their toys kept under control by the joy germs.

I had some slightly stretched tyres on the e30 a couple of years ago. Handled like sh*t, f**k all traction, put proper tyres on and all was good. No wonder the RFB and Honda people love it, at least they can spin a wheel with a 215 stretched on to a 9" rim

Rear LTW wing showed up. Bolt in seat brackets are ready and LSD center has arrived, dropping off my spare diff on sat to get it rebuilt. Goal is drop car for cage weekend after Easter. Have ordered Hawk race pads, TRW rotors and rear pads. Coolant hose set, sump baffle and tow hook is coming back from the USA with Mum later this month.

oh for craps sake. why is this so hard to understand? BUILD DATE DOES NOT MATTER TO THE MOTOR VEHICLE REGISTER, IT IS FROM YEAR OF FIRST REGISTRATION. Its not misleading. Its not illegal. And in the case of the E92, it barely matters. Anyone that is savvy enough to care about the differences in the same chassis from 08 to 10 will be able to tell its a 2008 car and factor that in. Most other people wouldnt give half a sh*t.

Splitter made 2 hours of my time and about $45.00 of material. Sorry I forgot to mention it is my car and I can do to it watt I want lol

You forgot spinners.

Mercedes cars have no soul. AMG make good noises but beyond that they have no personality and feel like an appliance. Go sit in one and tell me it feels special. BMW is at least still passionate about what they are making.

I don't think they have, if anything it seems to me that Mercedes and BMW have retained and increased their soul. While all Audi's share their platform across the VW group vehicles and they all look the same - they've gone in the same direction as the Jap carmakers. The 2 series is a blot on this view though.

That was a member on here I believe, I remember seeing him post about it before that Trademe ad appeared

Just added this to the stable. V8 X5s sound great! Better hurry up and flick my Subby wagon now ...

Get both!

How are you going about the abs fitting? Did the car have abs to begin with or is it a complete retrofit, I've thought about adding abs to mine for safety but have thought it was more trouble than it's worth.

Is accurate. Is BS.

i can accepet that the date of first registration is an indication of the cars first use date ,but can you not also aknowledge that as far as the specification of the car it is the model year or production date that is important for the car in itself?

Classy.

Is there a compliance loop hole where the tyre should be within the fender but the wheel can sit outside. Or is it that if you had wide wheels and normal tyres you would be rubbing on the guards. Therefore stretched = no rubbing and some people have taken this to an extreme. For me I like the wide tyres and recessed wheels look because it has good width from the front/ rear. Simply, 225 wide just look better than 195.

Wrong thread - Pee patches go in quick rants

Ok, so after yesterdays cock up I dropped the sub frame and attached the upper control arms and reinstall the sub frame total time 30mins . I'm not sure if I could have got the nut on or not but hay its done now.

Looks like it wipes well though? Smooth and no noise? I do see what Tom is talking about fitment though: It sort of lifts right at the edge hence the feedback Tom gave but it seems to be doing its job so I will see how it goes in the rain.

A M5 followed by a M-badged 535d. In fairness, the 535d has an option list as long as your arm, including lots of M-sport stuff.

It would seem to me that your sidewall may indeed be stiffer if it is stretched, but tyre manufacturers are not accounting for this when they are made, so whilst they may (thats a big may), they are not designed for that, hence the manufacturers suggestions that table the recommended sizes with an ideal width and a bit of give and take. I saw some 195/50's on a 15x10" rim and I can tell you thats well outside recommended and well into ridiculous

You couldn't be more wrong Kelvin. Best you take a breath and reconsider your position before you dig a deeper hole. Kyu, you're also off the mark. The most relevant detail to a purchaser is the year of manufacture, not the year of first registration. That the two commonly occur within months of each other makes it convenient to use the first registration year to represent the age of the car. If the first registration date doesn't fairly reflect the age of the car then you can't use it to represent the age of the car. You're overlooking the basics here and since they're so obvious I'm confused as to why? Extrapolating it to the extreme proves the point quite clearly: Car manufactured in 1972 sits in a barn owned by a long passed dealer and is never registered. It's rediscovered in 2016 by anybody else and immediately registered as brand new. Now, is that a 1972 car or a 2016 car? Silly argument boys and girls. It's so simple it's hardly worth the time.

All good paul, Was a good find i think just needs a nice good clean!! o yea and you need to fix the fuel problem i swear it was trying to kill me!

Saw this yesterday on TM, almost fell over haha. Such a beautiful example and that colour is amazing as always. Is it owned by a member? He is asking a high price...i'd say realistically even 18k would be approaching that OP mark, but then again...it must be a very mint example and probably well worth the extra $$$ for a potential BMW M enthusiast, if i was in that position to throw money at cars...i'd be eyeing this one haha.

Yeah all well and good until the tire comes off the bead. You dont see race cars with massive stretch. Im with you Graham, its terrible. I love a big chunky, prefect fitting sidewall.

It should also be said that trademe populates the car information, including the year, automatically from the registration number provided.

^ this is the truth. car owners will always advertise it according to the registered year. never will you find a seller who puts the build year as the main year when listing their vehicle. for e90's a 2008 and 2010 is a significant change as it is pre and post LCI (ie. facelift) so it does highlight the 'flaws' or 'downsides' of having the registered year but as kelvin has pointed out, anyone looking to buy such a car would check the build year and notice that it doesnt have the lci/facelift taillights straightaway. same thing with the 2002/2003 e46 m3 where the 2003.5 is the 'desireable' year. you can tell from the subtle differences in lights etc. if it was any other run of the mill car, no one would care anyway. this isnt even a problem. and the seller shouldnt be bagged for listing his car as a 2010. cuz it is a 2010 car according to the vehicle registration. end of story

Getting back into e30 life.

It's a MY2008 first registered in 2010? It's a 2008 car period. And can't legitimately be advertised as a 2010 car. "First registered in 2010" perhaps, as long as that's not misleading and I suggest it probably is. In no way, manner, fashion or form is it a 2010 car.

Watching my nearly 3 year old son go absolutely bananas as an E36 M3 goes full sideways through a corner on the Maioro stage of the Targa Bambina yesterday. World class motorsport less than 4 minutes drive from my home. Sweet!

Stance is just stupid.

Then today meet up with the guys in Auckland for their monthly coffee meet. Top bunch you lot. So will be up again once the swap is done. And had a good chat with Graham, and then went to see the Brit and Euro classic show at Elsmore Park with Scott. And ran into some of the other guys on the way there. Saw a few dream cars. But more importantly, prior to the meet, managed to pinch a Renault Clio brake booster out of a car at Pick-A-Part. Was surprised that they: A: Had a Renault there B: Someone else hadn't already pinched it for their engine swap. So was pretty stocked with that. I also learned that I should google how to remove the booster before wasting 20 minutes trying to pull it out through the engine bay (which you basically need to removal the intake manifold for) Turns out those clever people decided the whole pedal box should be completely removable from inside the car, so once that was unbolted, just pull the pedal box and the brake booster into the car. Easy as. What was not clever however, was the idea that the air intake be held on by male torx bolts at the front, and standard 10mm at the back. (Mostly because I didn't bring my female torx socket set with me). But hey, it's pick a part, so I just ripped it off.

Ended up with another one in the drive. Thanks to Sam for the help getting it home. It's red and it's an e30

Both examples above are horrendous. I hate it with a passion.

^ wut?

Did some painting, and started making an bottom splitter for the front bumper, next week the yellow.

I like the evolution of the BMW, refinement with performance comes to mind. I quite liked the f series 320i touring the dealer lent me. It actually reminded me more of my old e30 than the e36 & e46. Come to think of it I also set a faster slalom time in a f 320d than my e46 M3. I think BMW just gets better.